This is great news, but I pray vigano stops affiliating with the kremlin and Dugin.

I agree with you if it's true. @JustACatholic1 Alistair McFadden posted this on X. I also find it weird that Bergoglio hasn't shut it down (vigano)

https://twitter.com/JustACatholic1/status/1501149336876601344


https://twitter.com/JustACatholic1/status/1531788867631579136




https://x.com/JustACatholic1/status/1501149336876601344?s=20

I think there are mixed motivations.  

1)  We know that the Church was infiltrated, and could probably say with moral certainty that the SSPX has been infiltrated.  There are indeed infiltrators everywhere.  And this can breed a certain amount of paranoia where just about everyone is suspected of being an infiltrator.  This is similar to how there are so many predator priests (even among Trads) that if you run into a priest who shows even traces of not being particularly masculine, people start to wonder.  I think the difference is that one must be wary of potential predators, lest children be harmed, whereas to date +Vigano is not in any position to do harm.

2) Contempt for all things Conciliar.  Because +Vigano spent decades functioning as a high-profile Conciliar prelate, he's viewed as somehow tainted or stained.  In reality, he's been far to the right of neo-SSPX right out of the gate, denouncing Vatican II as radically defective, rather than 95% Catholic ... and he's been moving farther right almost with each letter.  But he's still considered "tainted" by his time in the Conciliar Church.  Can no one convert and be given the benefit of doubt regarding their sincerity?  I was largely a liberal in many areas before I was exposed to Traditional Catholicism.

3) Some resentment against the celebrity and fame of +Vigano.  Most Trad bishops and priests have labored (often for decades) in relative obscurity, and +Vigano comes onto the scene and is immediately the "star" ... at least in terms of his fame and exposure.  +Williamson's letters are not making headlines everywhere, all across Trad, Inc., etc.  So there's the resentment typified by Our Lord's parable about the guy who showed up to work at the end of the day and got the same pay as those who labored all day.  Lesson of the parable should be taken to heart, namely, that we are all where we're at by the grace of God only and not due to our own merits.  It's the same grace that converted these other priests or some of us faithful decades ago that is now converting +Vigano.  We're not somehow better or owed more because God converted us a long time ago.  We should be grateful that we've had all this extra time to be steeped in the Traditional faith.  +Vigano is getting old, and Father Chazal mentioned the regret he has that he's come "late to the fight".

4) There are also various agendas.  +Vigano said some positive things about Trump, and one poster who hates Trump with a passion can't let that go.  +Vigano basically took Russia's side regarding the Ukraine situation, and one poster who despised Russia couldn't let that go.  So did Bishop Williamson, but there's less animosity against him (probably due to some of the other factors above).  So the one poster in particular has gone on a slander campaign, attempting to characterize +Vigano as a Satanic/Luciferian Masonic sun-worshipper.

There's some combination of these 4 factors weighing into the hostility that some have toward +Vigano, where the poor man can do almost nothing right in their eyes.  I've never said that he's infallible or beyond disagreement with (no man is), but it's simply unjust that he can do almost nothing "right" in the minds of some of these folks.

The more I think about this, the more I am convinced it is a very bad thing to delay making a VERY public announcement. This a matter of extreme objective importance, with HUGE ramifications.

Agreed, what is he waiting for?

Indeed.  Proclaim it from the rooftops and call out the Bogus Ordo fraud for what it is.  It's time to wake up the sheeple and give courage to those waiting in the shadows.

It's a matter of prudence, the forgotten virtue among some here.  While the armchair warriors here are encouraging some kind of bravado, what good would it do exactly other than so that some individuals here could "high five" one another?  "Yeah, take that, Modernists."

Would it convert one person or would it be more likely to shut down those in "Trad, Inc." who might otherwise lend a more sympathetic ear to +Vigano?  Probably the latter ... if done abruptly.  +Vigano would quickly be demonized as having been conditionally consecrated by the "h0Ɩ0cαųst Denier" and also as having doubt about the great Saint Wojtyla the Great.

It may seem advisable as a matter of prudence to time the public announcement in such a way that it might have the greatest positive (vs. negative) effect.  Very often, individuals are best drawn to the truth in small steps, gradually.  If you took a completely clueless individual and started spouting off about "There was no h0Ɩ0cαųst.  Jews control the world." this would be too abrupt and would shut them down immediately.  But if you introduce the truth, little by little, step by step, they could gradually get there.  "Governments lie to us all the time.  Look at how most of the media are owned by Jews.  See how the big banks are controlled by Jews.  See what damage they are doing to society via the banks and the media." ... step by step ... and they may eventually get to the h0Ɩ0h0αx and the fact that Jews run the world.  But not if you throw it at them in one big bang.

I advise that some of you look up the virtue of prudence (the long-forgotten virtue, yet the queen of all the virtues).  You weigh the good and the bad that might come from any particular action you take when it comes to actions that are neither inherently good nor inherently bad (here, the wide public announcement of the consecration).

Go type in Google or Bing "was Archbishop Vigano conditionally consecrated" and CathInfo comes up, sometimes as a reference at the bottom of an AI generated response/summary.

In other words: It's plenty public.

Or type in "Bishop Vigano" into Google and click on the Wikipedia entry. You might have heard of Wikipedia. A pretty PUBLIC entity I'd say.
His conditional consecration is no secret.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_Maria_Vigan%C3%B2

In his December 2023 newsletter, Viganò announced the establishment of a traditionalist Catholic seminary called Collegium Traditionis in Viterbo, providing training to seminarians not willing to accept "the errors of the Second Vatican Council or the deviations of Bergoglio".[5] He claimed to follow the example of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre (Lefebvre founded the Écône Seminary in opposition to the Second Vatican Council and was eventually excommunicated by Pope John Paul II for illicitly consecrating four bishops).[5][150] According to Viganò, two seminarians have already enrolled.[5]
In January 2024, it was conjectured by some sources that Viganò had been conditionally re-consecrated to the episcopate by Bishop Richard Williamson (Williamson's excommunication, along with the excommunications of the other bishops consecrated by Archbishop Lefebvre in the 1988 Écône consecrations, were lifted in 2009 by Benedict XVI, but Archbishop Lefebvre's excommunication remains in effect.[151][152] Bishop Williamson was excommunicated again in 2015 after illicitly ordaining Jean-Michel Faure a bishop without papal mandate in Nova Friburgo, incurring an automatic excommunication).[153] The conditional re-consecration seems to imply that Viganò now believes that sacraments confected through the current Roman Missal are of dubious validity and, as such, his own consecration as bishop in 1992 by Pope John Paul II is dubious as well. Should the news be confirmed by papal authorities, Viganò would be excommunicated latae sententiae.[154]
After being questioned by the conservative Catholic website New Daily Compass on the issue, Viganò did not deny the news and declared himself astonished by the publication's interest in his personal affairs.[155] The New Daily Compass criticized Viganò's actions as schismatic.[155]

Go type in Google or Bing "was Archbishop Vigano conditionally consecrated" and CathInfo comes up, sometimes as a reference at the bottom of an AI generated response/summary.

In other words: It's plenty public.

Or type in "Bishop Vigano" into Google and click on the Wikipedia entry. You might have heard of Wikipedia. A pretty PUBLIC entity I'd say.
His conditional consecration is no secret.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_Maria_Vigan%C3%B2

In his December 2023 newsletter, Viganò announced the establishment of a traditionalist Catholic seminary called Collegium Traditionis in Viterbo, providing training to seminarians not willing to accept "the errors of the Second Vatican Council or the deviations of Bergoglio".[5] He claimed to follow the example of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre (Lefebvre founded the Écône Seminary in opposition to the Second Vatican Council and was eventually excommunicated by Pope John Paul II for illicitly consecrating four bishops).[5][150] According to Viganò, two seminarians have already enrolled.[5]
In January 2024, it was conjectured by some sources that Viganò had been conditionally re-consecrated to the episcopate by Bishop Richard Williamson (Williamson's excommunication, along with the excommunications of the other bishops consecrated by Archbishop Lefebvre in the 1988 Écône consecrations, were lifted in 2009 by Benedict XVI, but Archbishop Lefebvre's excommunication remains in effect.[151][152] Bishop Williamson was excommunicated again in 2015 after illicitly ordaining Jean-Michel Faure a bishop without papal mandate in Nova Friburgo, incurring an automatic excommunication).[153] The conditional re-consecration seems to imply that Viganò now believes that sacraments confected through the current Roman Missal are of dubious validity and, as such, his own consecration as bishop in 1992 by Pope John Paul II is dubious as well. Should the news be confirmed by papal authorities, Viganò would be excommunicated latae sententiae.[154]
After being questioned by the conservative Catholic website New Daily Compass on the issue, Viganò did not deny the news and declared himself astonished by the publication's interest in his personal affairs.[155] The New Daily Compass criticized Viganò's actions as schismatic.[155]

This is more information than when I looked a couple months ago.  It only said something like "it was conjectured by some sources that Viganò had been conditionally re-consecrated to the episcopate by Bishop Richard Williamson (who is well know as a holocaust denier)"  I remember it because I found it interesting that the h0Ɩ0cαųst denier label followed him to this post, now it doesn't say it at all.  (Sorry, I can't get the underline to stop)

It’s not “Official” until the Consecrator and Consecratee publicly say it’s so…with photo / video even better.  Until then it’s just rumors …”I know a guy who knows the guy”….doesn’t hold much weight in court…even if it’s Fr Chazel.

https://www.cath.ch/newsf/mgr-vigano-reconsacre-eveque-par-le-schismatique-williamson/

Article opens up with an error.  CONDITIONAL consecrations do not "earn latae sententiae excommunication".  They're a completely different animal, and of course the Bogus Ordo considers that no consecration took place when +Williamson conferred it on +Vigano because to them +Vigano was already a valid bishop.