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Offline Gray2023

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Re: Why don't modern husbands love their wives?
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2024, 02:51:54 PM »
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  • Gray, I loved your posts and gave several thumbs ups. I see that now you have 3 thumbs down for quoting Holy Scripture. I have to wonder about these people who thumb down the Word of God. Just don't even look at your "popularity score." I never do. It's sort of an entry level social credit score.
    I am not worried.  I really did care too much about offending people before I joined CathInfo.  It has helped a lot to toughen my skin and realize that God's opinion of me is the only one that matters.  My life consists of helping my husband, mothering my children, and being their for anyone in need.
    Fatti Maschii, Parole Femine

    Offline Nadir

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    Re: Why don't modern husbands love their wives?
    « Reply #16 on: July 20, 2024, 06:52:07 PM »
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  • First, my husband wants me to clarify that Eve's fault was pride, not concupiscence.  Concupiscence only happened after the fall.  (I posted this because he was very adiment about the terminology)

    Second to clarify, the fall of man doesn't only lie with the responsibility of Eve, if Adam had not joined her, the fall would not have happened. Each of the sexes has their part to play. 

    Third, yes conversion is the key.  But the only person one can truly convert is oneself.  I guess I just get so frustrated with the discussions on CathInfo,  because we don't know who are reading these posts and what if we push more people away, then inspire people to become Catholic. 

    I probably missed your point again, and I am sorry.  I think the answer is simple.  Do the duty God expects of you.  Use the Sacraments to bring yourself closer to God and all the rest will follow.  We can't force others, but we can control ourselves.
    Yes, you did miss the point again. Not only that, but you also have a problem with reading what I wrote and are misinterpreting. The point is that which I have bolded (below). It couldn’t be simpler.

    Gray, I am very careful with my wording, and said nothing about “Eve’s concupiscence”. Do you see how you have twisted what I wrote?

    Of course you are right that Eve’s rebellion is an act of pride. Believing “you shall be as Gods” is of course deadly pride.

    Regarding the blue print, why not leave it in God’s hands? CI performs a great service. Be grateful rather than frustrated.

    You are not responding to the points I made.

    I repeat, it has nothing to do with modernity. It has to do with human concupiscence.
    Paul to the Romans was quoted but he needs to be studied in full.

    If we go back to the start we find that our first Mother, Eve, did not submit to her Creator’s only prohibition and went ahead to do her own will rather than her Creator’s.
    No women will not give up their feminist power (without conversion).

    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Offline Gray2023

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    Re: Why don't modern husbands love their wives?
    « Reply #17 on: July 21, 2024, 02:44:46 PM »
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  • Yes, you did miss the point again. Not only that, but you also have a problem with reading what I wrote and are misinterpreting. The point is that which I have bolded (below). It couldn’t be simpler.

    That the difficulties of men and women lie not with modernism, but with the human concupiscence as a result of original sin?  And if I got it wrong again, then you are not being clear to me.

    Gray, I am very careful with my wording, and said nothing about “Eve’s concupiscence”. Do you see how you have twisted what I wrote?

    I think I was confused because your example had to do with Eve. 

    Of course you are right that Eve’s rebellion is an act of pride. Believing “you shall be as Gods” is of course deadly pride.

    Regarding the blue print, why not leave it in God’s hands? CI performs a great service. Be grateful rather than frustrated.

    I try to leave a lot in God's hands.  But sometimes I feel inspired to say something and if it is not offensive to God, then I feel at ease saying it.  I believe one can be frustrated with something, but also be grateful, i.e. I am frustrated with the Crisis in the church, but I am grateful that I have access to the True Sacraments because other's are not so blessed.
    Fatti Maschii, Parole Femine

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    Re: Why don't modern husbands love their wives?
    « Reply #18 on: July 21, 2024, 03:20:50 PM »
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  • I am not worried.  I really did care too much about offending people before I joined CathInfo.  It has helped a lot to toughen my skin and realize that God's opinion of me is the only one that matters.  My life consists of helping my husband, mothering my children, and being their for anyone in need.
    Good for you Gray! How could someone thumb that down?
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    Offline Gray2023

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    Re: Why don't modern husbands love their wives?
    « Reply #19 on: July 21, 2024, 03:33:47 PM »
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  • Good for you Gray! How could someone thumb that down?
    I thank them for it.  It means I struck a nerve or they don't like me.  I am not here to win a popularity contest.
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    Re: Why don't modern husbands love their wives?
    « Reply #20 on: July 21, 2024, 09:40:37 PM »
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    That the difficulties of men and women lie not with modernism, but with the human concupiscence as a result of original sin?  And if I got it wrong again, then you are not being clear to me.

    Gray, You got it right. 

    I think I was confused because your example had to do with Eve.  

    When I get a challenging communication I make it a point not to answer immediately, but rather I wait to have time to mull it over. It is important to know what the other person is really saying.

    I try to leave a lot in God's hands.  But sometimes I feel inspired to say something and if it is not offensive to God, then I feel at ease saying it.  I believe one can be frustrated with something, but also be grateful, i.e. I am frustrated with the Crisis in the church, but I am grateful that I have access to the True Sacraments because other's are not so blessed.
    I am one of those people who is not so blessed, so for me CI is a lifeline. I think we are all frustrated by the crisis. God will make it right and possible for us to achieve salvation if we constantly strive to do His Will.

    I must also say that all this male-female blaming irks me.



    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

    +RIP 2024

    Offline Gray2023

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    Re: Why don't modern husbands love their wives?
    « Reply #21 on: July 22, 2024, 04:00:40 PM »
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  • I must also say that all this male-female blaming irks me.
    It irks me, too.  We are responsible for our own salvation.  People can offer help or give suggestions, but nobody is forced to follow God, that would violate our free will.
    Fatti Maschii, Parole Femine