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Online Ladislaus

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Re: Are we teaching our girls (and boys) about C-sections?
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2024, 06:15:05 AM »
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    • Quote from: MaterDominici on January 18, 2024, 12:54:43 AM
    Do you have any stats on emergency transfers from home births? I think you'd be surprised at how extremely rare they are.

    Stats say that 4 times as many newborns die in home births than in hospitals.  While one might argue with "stats" in general, it's just common sense that things can go wrong, and unless someone has a compelling reason for a home birth (other than Hippie earthy-crunchy nonsense), there's no reason to incur the risk.  Yeah, it's still "only" 14 deaths per 10,000 live births (they're excluding stillborn children), but if your child is one of those 10 out of 10,000, then you've made a poor decision.  Yes, yes, God will have allowed it, but God allows people to have abortions also, and some people border on the Prot mentality that modern medicine is intrinsically evil.
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    Re: Are we teaching our girls (and boys) about C-sections?
    « Reply #16 on: January 18, 2024, 06:17:10 AM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on January 18, 2024, 06:12:46 AM
    They will respect the parents’ wishes in matters such as vaccines, circuмcision, etc.

    While hospitals may not "respect" your wishes, they cannot administer a jab, perform circuмcision, etc. if you expressly forbid it and remain strong to their attempts to "persuade" (and "scare") you into it.
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    Re: Are we teaching our girls (and boys) about C-sections?
    « Reply #17 on: January 18, 2024, 06:18:34 AM »
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    • Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on January 17, 2024, 06:21:44 PM
    Where are Catholic hospitals when we need them?  The medical field is about the love of money instead of getting people better.  Sick people are dollar signs. 

    Sad to say there is plenty of adultery among medical staff , or sodomy.
    As a Catholic, it would be nice of most of the medical staff believed in Jesus instead of witchcraft and satan.
    There are no more Catholic hospitals as we once knew them.  The laws and costs associated with opening a hospital make opening one virtually impossible in todays conditions.  
    But I do think it’s a real stretch to claim most medical professionals are into witchcraft and satan!  
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    Re: Are we teaching our girls (and boys) about C-sections?
    « Reply #18 on: January 18, 2024, 09:00:51 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on January 18, 2024, 06:15:05 AM
    Stats say that 4 times as many newborns die in home births than in hospitals.  While one might argue with "stats" in general, it's just common sense that things can go wrong, and unless someone has a compelling reason for a home birth (other than Hippie earthy-crunchy nonsense), there's no reason to incur the risk.  Yeah, it's still "only" 14 deaths per 10,000 live births (they're excluding stillborn children), but if your child is one of those 10 out of 10,000, then you've made a poor decision.  Yes, yes, God will have allowed it, but God allows people to have abortions also, and some people border on the Prot mentality that modern medicine is intrinsically evil.
    There are many reasons to NOT go to a hospital, I think Covid insanity showed us that. If you are a new parent you might not be prepared mentally for the harassment from doctors if you decline vaccinations, antibiotics, and vitamin k. My 4th was born in a birthing center, and the delivery was dicey. He got stuck and came out purple. The midwives knew just what to do to get him out, because they don’t have the option of surgery. If we were in a hospital they would have done what they know, and that’s emergency surgery. And if we did manage to avoid the C-section, and he still came out purple they would have whisked him right off to NICU, instead of being put right on the breast which was the best thing for him. He recovered in a few hours, which would not have happened at the hospital. Unfortunately the birthing center closed due to unsustainable insurance cost increases, so #5 was at home. 
    Find a good midwife and stay out of the hospitals. 
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    Re: Are we teaching our girls (and boys) about C-sections?
    « Reply #19 on: January 18, 2024, 10:04:55 AM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on January 18, 2024, 06:18:34 AM
    But I do think it’s a real stretch to claim most medical professionals are into witchcraft and satan! 

    Maybe not intentionally so. But as part of their training in most teaching hospitals, they (ob/gyns) are required to learn how to do abortions and that has to have marked them in some way (unless they refused to do so or confessed it later).
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    Re: Are we teaching our girls (and boys) about C-sections?
    « Reply #20 on: January 18, 2024, 10:42:09 AM »
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    • Quote from: FarmerWife on January 17, 2024, 01:11:09 PM
    They died back then because they didn't have the education and technology we have today. The leading cause would be hemorrhage (bleeding out) which actually can be caused by human error like yanking the placenta out instead of birthing it naturally as well as other reasons. 

    Also, many women died from childbed fever from an infection that would set in after few days. This comes up a lot in histories about famous wives/mothers. It can be avoided easily by simple sanitary practices during delivery, as in the cliche when labor starts to "boil water!" Too, prudent hygiene afterward and the 6-week embargo of the marital bed, the latter a very old rule known in many cultures and not something that modern MDs discovered. 

    A lot of knowledge has been lost because of the professionalization of obstetrics. For example, midwives used to know (and many still do) how to identify and turn a breach presentation well before the onset of labor. Sure, technology may obviously save lives now, but over-reliance on technology leads to complicit laxity in neglecting to prevent what's easily preventable, thus making the technology necessary as a last resort, and not just in obstetrics.
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    Re: Are we teaching our girls (and boys) about C-sections?
    « Reply #21 on: January 18, 2024, 10:53:11 AM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on January 18, 2024, 06:18:34 AM
    There are no more Catholic hospitals as we once knew them.  The laws and costs associated with opening a hospital make opening one virtually impossible in todays conditions. 
    But I do think it’s a real stretch to claim most medical professionals are into witchcraft and satan! 
    You would be surprised. Many medical staff open themselves to demons when they commit adultery.  I know for a fact many doctors have mistresses.  One doctor in our area an obgyn was arrested for child pornography years ago. Many divorced nurses are into witch craft and new age religion.    Foreign medical staff are into false demon gods and goddesses.  Abortion has been linked to satanic rituals.  We don’t have Catholic hospitals because there aren’t any Catholics.   







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    Re: Are we teaching our girls (and boys) about C-sections?
    « Reply #22 on: January 18, 2024, 10:58:44 AM »
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    • Nurse writes “I am evil”

    [color=var(--wp--preset--color--gray-g)]The baby-killing British nurse experimented with [color=var(--wp--custom--color--link)]various medical techniques[/color] to hurt tots during her [color=var(--wp--custom--color--link)]murderous five-year career[/color], according to the chief medical expert at her trial.[/font][/size][/color]
    [color=var(--wp--preset--color--gray-g)]Dr. Dewi Evans said Lucy Letby, who was [color=var(--wp--custom--color--link)]convicted[/color] last month of killing seven babies and [color=var(--wp--custom--color--link)]attempting to murder[/color] six more at the [color=var(--wp--custom--color--link)]Countess of Chester Hospital[/color] neonatal unit in 2015 and 2016, used hard-to-detect methods to carry out her monstrous acts, including displacing tubes and injecting air into her victims. [/font][/size][/color]
    [color=var(--wp--preset--color--gray-g)]Following the arrest of the 33-year-old in 2018 over the deaths of eight children at Chester hospital, Evans said he was asked to review the notes of 48 babies, none of which were included in the trial. [/color]
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    [color=var(--wp--preset--color--gray-g)]Prosecutors will announce Monday whether Letby, Britain’s worst child killer, will face a new trial over six outstanding attempted murder charges on which a jury failed to reach a verdict. [/color]


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    Re: Are we teaching our girls (and boys) about C-sections?
    « Reply #23 on: January 18, 2024, 11:17:29 AM »
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    • Quote from: Soubirous on January 18, 2024, 10:42:09 AM
    Also, many women died from childbed fever from an infection that would set in after few days. This comes up a lot in histories about famous wives/mothers. It can be avoided easily by simple sanitary practices during delivery, as in the cliche when labor starts to "boil water!" Too, prudent hygiene afterward and the 6-week embargo of the marital bed, the latter a very old rule known in many cultures and not something that modern MDs discovered.

    A lot of knowledge has been lost because of the professionalization of obstetrics. For example, midwives used to know (and many still do) how to identify and turn a breach presentation well before the onset of labor. Sure, technology may obviously save lives now, but over-reliance on technology leads to complicit laxity in neglecting to prevent what's easily preventable, thus making the technology necessary as a last resort, and not just in obstetrics.
    Also, ultrasounds are not as accurate as they are thought to be. And you have the genetic testing to tell you if you're child will have a problem. Who knows how many abortions have been done because of a "positive result" for Down syndrome? Yes, I know someone who had a traditional midwife insert her hand after birth to check for the placenta or maybe pieces of it and she had to go to the hospital a few weeks after for an infection (sepsis). 
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    Re: Are we teaching our girls (and boys) about C-sections?
    « Reply #24 on: January 18, 2024, 02:38:26 PM »
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    • Viva:  My mother-in-law was over dosed with diabetic insulin.( she was in a care facility)  I kept a diary and compared to a calendar, found that mother-in-law was sent to the hospital where my husband worked, twice, on 3 day weekend vacation.  I told my husband what I saw and told him, mom will be admitted before you go into work tonight.  By golly she was!  My husband told a doctor to write them up for over dose, an old way to kill off patient.  One nurse was fired, the other witch, got off.  And yes, they are witches who are very proud of themselves.

    And you are right about nurse witches, divorced and encourage others to divorce.  I have seen witch school bus drivers.  They keep their jobs, scrubbing each others backs.
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