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Offline Vladimir

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Is this real "apparition"?!?!?
« on: October 31, 2009, 08:21:40 PM »
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  • Start watching around 2:00. This is video filmed in a mountainous region of Viet Nam. The statue of the Blessed Virgin Mary supposedly comes alive. You can see the stone cloak suddenly start to blow in the wind, and the statue's head turn.

    I am trying to find more information, but there is no message associated with this event.

    I think that it is real.




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    « Reply #1 on: October 31, 2009, 10:28:39 PM »
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  • I misspoke. The video actually frightens me, and it seems a bit suspicious.




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    Is this real "apparition"?!?!?
    « Reply #2 on: October 31, 2009, 10:49:49 PM »
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  • I don't know.  The bleeding icons don't have words, either but there were hundreds of them a few years ago.

    I have always loved the apparitions of Our Lady and the doves at Ziuton, Egypt.  If that is spelled correctly.  So beautiful.  What do you think of them?

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    « Reply #3 on: November 01, 2009, 02:58:02 AM »
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  • At 2:33 - 2:34, you can see a arm coming out from behind the statue waving a white cloth that is supposed to be the statues mantle. Same thing at 5:13 - 5:14. Fake.

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    Is this real "apparition"?!?!?
    « Reply #4 on: November 01, 2009, 08:20:49 AM »
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  • It's hard to imagine why Our Lady would return after her message at Fatima was not heeded.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,


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    « Reply #5 on: November 01, 2009, 11:08:53 AM »
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  • Quote from: Alex
    At 2:33 - 2:34, you can see a arm coming out from behind the statue waving a white cloth that is supposed to be the statues mantle. Same thing at 5:13 - 5:14. Fake.


    Interesting. The filming is a bit suspicious as well. And the man says some things that are not verified by the film.



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    « Reply #6 on: November 01, 2009, 01:40:48 PM »
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  • Quote from: parentsfortruth
    It's hard to imagine why Our Lady would return after her message at Fatima was not heeded.


    Because she loves us like a mother and can't help trying to help us save our souls before it's too late?

    (not that I am attached to this particular video, btw)

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    « Reply #7 on: November 01, 2009, 02:14:24 PM »
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  •  What a shame that Catholics are hooked on signs and wonders just like a cheap crack whore. You might get a spiritual high, but it is like a conterfeit drug induced one. Even worse, cause you opened up a gateway for evil spirits to come into you and your family. No wonder Larry David is making fun of Catholics. What about this Knock 3pm farce. The Devil is laughing his tail off. Keep it up.


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    « Reply #8 on: November 01, 2009, 02:44:13 PM »
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    What a shame that Catholics are hooked on signs and wonders just like a cheap crack whore. You might get a spiritual high, but it is like a conterfeit drug induced one. Even worse, cause you opened up a gateway for evil spirits to come into you and your family. No wonder Larry David is making fun of Catholics. What about this Knock 3pm farce. The Devil is laughing his tail off. Keep it up.

     
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    « Reply #9 on: November 01, 2009, 04:40:49 PM »
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  • Thousands await Knock's new Virgin Mary vision

    Pilgrims have travelled to a rain-soaked corner of western Ireland hoping to witness a miracle

        They came from Wexford, Manchester and even India, driven on by the hope that in this rain-soaked corner of western Ireland the mother of God would appear to them this weekend.

    All along Knock's main street the pilgrims slept in vans and motor homes, all hoping to book a space near the site where a Dublin-based spiritual healer predicted the Virgin Mary would materialise.

    Joe Coleman's visions of a Marian apparition on the exact spot where villagers claimed they saw the Virgin Mary in 1879 have created a fervour across the Catholic world.

    Coleman complained that the Catholic church had not made a priest available to recite the Rosary with him and the thousands gathered in waiting. Describing himself as "a visionary of our Blessed Mother", he said the visitation would only be visible "to people who come with an open heart".

    With up to 10,000 pilgrims descending on the village, Coleman's promise that Christ's mother would appear through a "dancing sun" in the sky has at least given Knock's economy an unexpected boost. At The Shrine bed and breakfast across the road from the Marian Shrine, built to commemorate the 19th-century apparition, the manager Nicola said all of their rooms were booked up on Friday evening.

    Across the road, the O'Brien and Berry families from Co Wexford were bedding down for the night inside their van. Surrounded by her daughter Anne and grandsons, Martin and Luke, Alice Berry said that while she wanted see the Virgin Mary appear she was afraid of the message she would be bringing from heaven. "Of course I'm here to see Our Lady but I am worried about what she is going to say. I'm afraid she's going to tell us something terrible," said Alice.

    The Berrys, like the most of those gathered this weekend beside the Knock shrine, are travellers. Their presence has illuminated the social chasm between them and the Republic's settled majority.

    Many of the travellers gathering inside the shrine's grounds late on Friday complained that the public toilets had been locked and car parks blocked to prevent them from parking their vans, motor homes and caravans. They also pointed out that all of the pubs in the village have been shut and none were prepared to sell them carry-outs.

    The shrine has its origins in the visions of a Miss Mary McLoughlin, the 45-year-old housekeeper, who on 21 August 1879 claimed to have seen on the south gable of Knock parish church "a wonderful number of strange figures; one like the blessed Virgin Mary and one like St. Joseph". It wasn't until 1936 and two commissions of inquiry before the Catholic church officially agreed that the visions were genuine. Sceptics have always argued that they were caused by the use of magic lanterns owned by a local police officer at the time.

    While the Irish hierarchy maintains the 19th-century Knock apparitions were real it does not support Coleman's claims. But despite urging caution, the Irish Catholic bishops have been unable to dissuade the thousands who came this weekend to wait for the Virgin Mary's second coming to Mayo.

    During the first "sighting" on 11 October, Coleman urged pilgrims to stare at the sun. Many of them claimed they saw clouds parting to reveal a bright sunlit image of a woman in white. Others, however, were more sceptical.

    Before leaving the shrine yesterday, Coleman said the Virgin Mary had appeared but he was not yet prepared to reveal the message she had sent him for the world.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/01/thousands-await-knocks-virgin-mary

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    « Reply #10 on: November 02, 2009, 01:00:59 PM »
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  • Quote from: parentsfortruth
    It's hard to imagine why Our Lady would return after her message at Fatima was not heeded.


    Nor Akita.....or Garabandal
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    « Reply #11 on: November 02, 2009, 01:06:26 PM »
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  • Quote from: Classiccom
    What a shame that Catholics are hooked on signs and wonders just like a cheap crack whore. You might get a spiritual high, but it is like a conterfeit drug induced one. Even worse, cause you opened up a gateway for evil spirits to come into you and your family. No wonder Larry David is making fun of Catholics. What about this Knock 3pm farce. The Devil is laughing his tail off. Keep it up.


    Could care less what larry David thinks! do not even know-or care-who he is......

    The Devil laughs at people that reject the gifts of Mary taht God deigns....

    the shot about crack whore is rather cheap and dirty, esp as we are talking about the BVM.....

    opened door to evil spirits,etc.......yup, repenting of sins, frequent communion and rosaries are really a way to open the door to evil (the fruits of true apparitions these are  :laugh1:)

    I agree :bob-marley: :clown:
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    « Reply #12 on: November 02, 2009, 01:07:31 PM »
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  • Quote from: Classiccom

    Thousands await Knock's new Virgin Mary vision

    Pilgrims have travelled to a rain-soaked corner of western Ireland hoping to witness a miracle

        They came from Wexford, Manchester and even India, driven on by the hope that in this rain-soaked corner of western Ireland the mother of God would appear to them this weekend.

    All along Knock's main street the pilgrims slept in vans and motor homes, all hoping to book a space near the site where a Dublin-based spiritual healer predicted the Virgin Mary would materialise.

    Joe Coleman's visions of a Marian apparition on the exact spot where villagers claimed they saw the Virgin Mary in 1879 have created a fervour across the Catholic world.

    Coleman complained that the Catholic church had not made a priest available to recite the Rosary with him and the thousands gathered in waiting. Describing himself as "a visionary of our Blessed Mother", he said the visitation would only be visible "to people who come with an open heart".

    With up to 10,000 pilgrims descending on the village, Coleman's promise that Christ's mother would appear through a "dancing sun" in the sky has at least given Knock's economy an unexpected boost. At The Shrine bed and breakfast across the road from the Marian Shrine, built to commemorate the 19th-century apparition, the manager Nicola said all of their rooms were booked up on Friday evening.

    Across the road, the O'Brien and Berry families from Co Wexford were bedding down for the night inside their van. Surrounded by her daughter Anne and grandsons, Martin and Luke, Alice Berry said that while she wanted see the Virgin Mary appear she was afraid of the message she would be bringing from heaven. "Of course I'm here to see Our Lady but I am worried about what she is going to say. I'm afraid she's going to tell us something terrible," said Alice.

    The Berrys, like the most of those gathered this weekend beside the Knock shrine, are travellers. Their presence has illuminated the social chasm between them and the Republic's settled majority.

    Many of the travellers gathering inside the shrine's grounds late on Friday complained that the public toilets had been locked and car parks blocked to prevent them from parking their vans, motor homes and caravans. They also pointed out that all of the pubs in the village have been shut and none were prepared to sell them carry-outs.

    The shrine has its origins in the visions of a Miss Mary McLoughlin, the 45-year-old housekeeper, who on 21 August 1879 claimed to have seen on the south gable of Knock parish church "a wonderful number of strange figures; one like the blessed Virgin Mary and one like St. Joseph". It wasn't until 1936 and two commissions of inquiry before the Catholic church officially agreed that the visions were genuine. Sceptics have always argued that they were caused by the use of magic lanterns owned by a local police officer at the time.

    While the Irish hierarchy maintains the 19th-century Knock apparitions were real it does not support Coleman's claims. But despite urging caution, the Irish Catholic bishops have been unable to dissuade the thousands who came this weekend to wait for the Virgin Mary's second coming to Mayo.

    During the first "sighting" on 11 October, Coleman urged pilgrims to stare at the sun. Many of them claimed they saw clouds parting to reveal a bright sunlit image of a woman in white. Others, however, were more sceptical.

    Before leaving the shrine yesterday, Coleman said the Virgin Mary had appeared but he was not yet prepared to reveal the message she had sent him for the world.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/01/thousands-await-knocks-virgin-mary


    So? this proves???????????

    why would they wait, did Mary say she wold return? when has she in the past returned to apparition spot???

    Larry David, can you tell me...........oops....you likely cant......
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    « Reply #13 on: November 02, 2009, 01:57:01 PM »
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  •  Sorry to be such a nasty rogue. Guilty.

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    (the fruits of true apparitions these are)

      Knock Ireland -  Massive defection from the faith in Ireland and also 11 million Ex Irish Catholics in America. I think Time had a recent article that said that when Irish Americans left the Church, they don't believe in anything.  Very sad.. But Jesus Christ said that if you don't build on His Foundation, that the building would be swept away in the bad weather. That's my take , sorry to offend you with the truth.

       I like a direct approach to prayer.

    Micah 7:7

    7 But as for me, I will look unto Jehovah; I will wait for the God of my salvation: my God will hear me.

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    « Reply #14 on: November 02, 2009, 01:59:53 PM »
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  • THere is massive defections everywhere, Europe esp, but here too-all predicted by fathers, saints,Scripture, Popes,etc....

    alot of folks here claim to be the truth tellers, though most do not deny Mary's assistance........

    remind me, you are what is commonly called Old Catholic??? or is taht another poster, may be mixing you up.....
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