Vlad- are you able to post your thoughts on the post and articles posted by Hobble? I'm very interested. I would love to continue this discourse.

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

Quote from: Vladimir

Did SouthernBelle's advice - a perfectly Catholic piece of advice and one that shows great spiritual maturity at that - really get 3 "thumbs down" by this crowd of rabid self-proclaimed traditionalists?

So someone who says it's ok to attend a heretical service gave a "perfectly Catholic piece of advice" yet the 4 people who tell you you're wrong are "rabid self-proclaimed Traditionalists"? You obviouly don't know what the meaning of Traditional is.

SpiritusSanctus, please do not twist my words into something that I never said or even implied. Thank you.

I didn't, I was responding to Vladimir.

Hobbledehoy said:
I am inclined to agree with Rev. Father Davis in his assessment of organ playing in a non-Catholic service. The only excusing factors, which would have to exist simultaneously, are:

1) A very grave necessity (in the particular predicament in question, it is of a financial nature I suppose), and

2) The absence of proximate occasion of sins against the faith, either (a) by exposing oneself foolhardily to the heretical teachings when one is not well-established in the profession and practice of the Catholic faith; or (b) by scandalizing fellow Catholics and the non-Catholics that partake in that service (e.g., giving the impression that it is alright for a traditional Catholic to co-operate actively in a non-Catholic religious function, in light of the propagation of the false ecuмenism of "Vatican II," or giving the impression that the public cult of non-Catholics is to be tolerated and, consequently, their errors are also to be tolerated).

So how does a Catholic organist indicate to the assembled "faithful" at a Protestant service that he is not one of them and that he doesn't approve of their gathering, which he is speeding along with his dazzling Bach riffs?  Does he wear a T-shirt of an unmistakably Catholic nature?  Or is he supposed to wriggle in his seat uncomfortably during the sermon and roll his eyes, to let everyone know he's against it?  It all feels uncomfortably like communicatio in sacris to me.  

Sorry for the formatting, it's Matthew's fault, lol. I redid it with the correct tags and everything but it's still like this.




 

So how does a Catholic organist indicate to the assembled "faithful" at a Protestant service that he is not one of them and that he doesn't approve of their gathering, which he is speeding along with his dazzling Bach riffs?  Does he wear a T-shirt of an unmistakably Catholic nature?  Or is he supposed to wriggle in his seat uncomfortably during the sermon and roll his eyes, to let everyone know he's against it?  It all feels uncomfortably like communicatio in sacris to me.  

 

BUAHAHHAA, Bach riffs. Agreed, agreed, AGREED!

So how does a Catholic organist indicate to the assembled "faithful" at a Protestant service that he is not one of them and that he doesn't approve of their gathering, which he is speeding along with his dazzling Bach riffs?  Does he wear a T-shirt of an unmistakably Catholic nature?  Or is he supposed to wriggle in his seat uncomfortably during the sermon and roll his eyes, to let everyone know he's against it?  It all feels uncomfortably like communicatio in sacris to me.  

Sorry for the formatting, it's Matthew's fault, lol. I redid it with the correct tags and everything but it's still like this.




 

Quite simply. He could refuse to take their "communion" when explicitly invited to partake of it in front of the entire church.

Looking back on this thread, many of my comments towards other members of this forum who offered sound advice seem rash, impatient, insincere, confrontational, uncharitable, and otherwise immature. I apologize. Please understand that at the time I was in a difficult situation that I did not want to be in but was forced into rather obligingly by various factors that were out of my control.

Now, before anyone has a chance to jump up and down saying "I told you so!", I still hold that this issue is more complicated and delicate than some here seem to believe, and I certainly do not think that it is an issue upon which a position can be clearly defined in one sentence.

As for myself, I did not continue work at either Protestant location very long after this thread was created, and I do not plan to take up any such work in the foreseeable future. However, I am in an entirely different living situation now and thankfully I don't think that working in a Protestant church is a realistic or viable option of possible employment.

As an aside, an aspiring traditional Catholic musician can do nothing but despair at the current job market. Frankly, it seems that many traditional Catholics in the pews are content to pay lip service to the need for beautiful art, music, etc (if even that), but when it comes down to money or even just a little effort, no one is willing to budge. I suppose if people don't even want to make an effort to sing themselves, it can't be expected that they care enough to pay someone else to sing or accompany their silence. Ironically, one common defense of the Latin Mass against the Novus Ordo is the aesthetic superiority of the former. Sadly, this is not true (musically speaking) in many, many cases.

I am just a disillusioned youth, wandering aimlessly through a world that is not as rosy as he once thought.

Thank you for bearing with me all these years.