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Offline Pelly

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Is there a Jesuit Oath?
« on: April 01, 2013, 01:16:41 PM »
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  • I've seen this "oath" on many Protestant sites, including this. But is this oath valid? I've seen differences, since the "oath" here presented mentions "heretics, Protestants and Masons" while another "oath" says "liberals" instead of "Masons". Is this oath a forgery?


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    Is there a Jesuit Oath?
    « Reply #1 on: April 01, 2013, 04:07:33 PM »
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  • Quote from: Pelly
    I've seen this "oath" on many Protestant sites, including this. But is this oath valid? I've seen differences, since the "oath" here presented mentions "heretics, Protestants and Masons" while another "oath" says "liberals" instead of "Masons". Is this oath a forgery?


    Pelly, I've posted this link before which completely debunks all the nonsense being spread about the Jesuit oath.  

    http://www.victorclaveau.com/htm_html/Anti-Catholicism/jesuit_oath_debunked.htm

    Now, there is a genuine oath that the Jesuits do take in which they pledge to be fidelity to Holy Mother Church and the Pope.  In their oath they also take vows of poverty, chastity and obedience.  I've actually seen the real oath that they take but right now I can't find it.  I'll do some more searching and if I find it I'll post it.
    My conscience compels me to make this disclaimer lest God judges me partly culpable for the errors and heresy promoted on this forum... For the record I support neither Sedevacantism or the SSPX.  I do not define myself as either a traditionalist or Novus


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    Is there a Jesuit Oath?
    « Reply #2 on: April 01, 2013, 04:20:24 PM »
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  • I know what some are going to say already.  I found this over at CAF  Still searching for the real oath.

    http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=14245

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    You can rest assured that the “Jesuit Oath” you’re referring to is a complete fabrication with no basis in fact whatsoever. According to the Catholic Encyclopedia  (see “Jesuit Apologetic” link below) this oath was the product of the imagination of the forger Robert Ware (mid to late 1600’s).

     Here’s an excerpt from the Catholic Encyclopedia  article “Impostors”:

     "Robert Ware the forger, the author of "Foxes and Firebrands", who has of late years been so thoroughly exposed by Father Bridgett, traded upon the same prejudices. His more public career began contemporaneously with that of Oates in 1678, and by sheltering himself behind the high reputation of his dead father, Sir James Ware, amongst whose manuscripts he pretended to discover all kinds of compromising papers, he obtained currency for his forgeries, remaining almost undetected until modern times. Many foul aspersions upon the character of individual popes, Jesuits, and other Catholics, and also upon some Puritans, which have found their way into the pages of respectable historians, are due to the fabrications of "this literary skunk", as Fr. Bridgett not unjustifiably calls him (see Bridgett, "Blunders and Forgeries", pp. 209-296).

     Some other vindictive and unprincipled scoundrels whose impostures for the most part took a literary form may also be mentioned here, though without any hope of exhausting the list. Foremost among them comes the Abbé Zahorowski, a Jesuit expelled from his order in which as a young scholastic he had been guilty of certain mean and discreditable tricks. In revenge for his expulsion he contrived to write and publish the notorious "Monita Secreta", which, as a code of secret instructions issued by authority, pretended to lay bare the shameless and Machiavellian policy followed by the Society of Jesus. That the "Monita Secreta" are a forgery is now universally admitted even by opponents, and since the publication of the memoirs of Father Wielewicki (Scriptores Rerum Polonicarum, vols. VII, X, XIV) no doubt remains that Zahorowski was the author (see Duhr, "Jesuitenfabeln" No. 5; Brou, "Les Jésuites de la Légende", I, 281).

     Hardly less dear to the no-popery champion than the "Monita Secreta" is the fictitious "Hungarian Confession" or "Fluchformular". It is a profession of faith supposed to have been exacted of converts to the Church in Hungary (c. 1676), by which among other things they were required to declare that the pope ought to receive Divine honours, and that the Blessed Virgin ought to be held higher than Christ himself. The forgery seems to have been traced to the door of George Lani, an Evangelical minister, sent to the galleys for political intrigues against the Government in Hungary, who first published it in a work called "Captivitas Papistica". Whether it was his own fabrication is not, however, certain. He may possibly have adopted, seriously and in good faith, some satirical composition in circulation at the time (see Duhr, "Jesuitenfabeln", No. 7, and S. F. Smith in "The Month", July-August, 1896)."
     For full text, see Impostors

     Recommended Reading:

    Books:
    Blunders and Forgeries: Historical Essays  by Rev. T.E. Bridgett
     Click here.

    Articles:
     For more examples of Robert Ware’s anti-Catholic fabrications click here.
     (From the book History of the Catholic Church  (Chapter 9) by James MacCaffrey).

    The Jesuit Oath Debunked

    Jesuit Apologetic
    My conscience compels me to make this disclaimer lest God judges me partly culpable for the errors and heresy promoted on this forum... For the record I support neither Sedevacantism or the SSPX.  I do not define myself as either a traditionalist or Novus

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    « Reply #3 on: April 01, 2013, 04:29:11 PM »
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  • http://www.victorclaveau.com/htm_html/Anti-Catholicism/jesuit_oath_debunked.htm

    The Real Oath

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    I, (name), make my profession, and I promise to Almighty God, in the presence of his Virgin Mother, the whole heavenly court, and all those here present and to you , Reverend Father (Provincial, Rector, etc.) representing the Superior General of the Society of Jesus and his successors and holding the place of God, perpetual poverty, chastity and obedience; and, in conformity with it, special care for the instruction of children, according to the manner of living contained in the apostolic letters of the Society of Jesus and its Constitutions.

    I further promise a special obedience to the Sovereign Pontiff in regard to the missions according to the same apostolic letters and Constitutions.

    Place (name), in the Church of (name), on the date of (date)

    (Signatures of the one making vows and the one receiving them).
    My conscience compels me to make this disclaimer lest God judges me partly culpable for the errors and heresy promoted on this forum... For the record I support neither Sedevacantism or the SSPX.  I do not define myself as either a traditionalist or Novus

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    Is there a Jesuit Oath?
    « Reply #4 on: April 01, 2013, 04:36:09 PM »
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  • Pelly,

    Jack Chick puts out some tracts and he peddles this story of a former Jesuit named Alberto Rivera, former Jesuit.  Read and enjoy these tracts as much as you like but remember that they are largely nonsense albeit very funny nonsense.

    I actually wish the Jesuits were the warriors that oath makes them out to be.