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Offline Dankward

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Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
« Reply #1005 on: December 23, 2021, 04:03:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on December 22, 2021, 09:14:30 PM
    Here is the excerpt from Edward Hendrie's book The Greatest Lie on Earth, speaking of the construction of the Twin Towers:


    And also: https://www.spacecentre.nz/resources/faq/solar-system/earth/flat/structures.html
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    Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
    « Reply #1006 on: December 23, 2021, 05:47:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Dankward on December 23, 2021, 03:32:14 PM
    It has been proven over and over again how the curvature of Earth is a non-issue in railroad engineering due to it's subtlety. Railroads are built in segments anyway. Those can curve quite extremely as demonstrated by the various pictures we have seen in these threads. These beams need to curve heavily to conform to the terrain they're built on. The curvature is so small (0,001% per mile) that it can safely be disregarded as compared to the quite harsh elevation changes of the actual terrain.

    Still, there are theoretical materials (various books etc.) which talk about accounting for curvature for long tracks as dicussed in the link I posted above: https://flatearth.ws/railroads

    To conclude this excessively discussed point, whether railway engineers account for curvature of the Earth or not does not at all pertain to the shape of the Earth. Let's focus on other points.
    Subtlety? Not over a thousand miles it isn't.  You don't just lay level track piece by piece and expect 15 miles of declination for curvature to magically appear.  Level is level and curve is curve, even by incremental amounts.  Engineers were so worried about it when they laid railroad for the US they complained to government officials and were told, 'do not adjust for curve, just make it level.'  Why? Because they knew that earth is not a globe.    
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    Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
    « Reply #1007 on: December 23, 2021, 11:07:11 PM »
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    • I was listening to jimbob here do one of his little "stream of consciousness" rants and he makes some good points about the whole FE vs GE fight that has really made me reconsider some things. Basically, neither position can make a positive claim about the earth being flat or globular, rather, the core issue here is with modern cosmology being built upon deception and lies. So, I think it's prudent that I should avoid being either a Flat earther or a globe earther and reside in what a friend on Gab called "true earther", as in accepting what is observable and true about the earth; based upon scientific and practical observation, plus what has been revealed by God through Scripture.

    These threads are a good example of the problems associated with falling into yet another either/or dialectical argument to sow division.

    Relevant part starts at 18:53-20:55
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    Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
    « Reply #1008 on: December 23, 2021, 11:37:21 PM »
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    • Great video from a Catholic talking about flat Earth.
    https://www.youtube.com/embed/KnqBzncqS2U
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    Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
    « Reply #1009 on: December 24, 2021, 12:57:25 AM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on December 23, 2021, 11:07:11 PM
    I was listening to jimbob here do one of his little "stream of consciousness" rants and he makes some good points about the whole FE vs GE fight that has really made me reconsider some things. Basically, neither position can make a positive claim about the earth being flat or globular, rather, the core issue here is with modern cosmology being built upon deception and lies. So, I think it's prudent that I should avoid being either a Flat earther or a globe earther and reside in what a friend on Gab called "true earther", as in accepting what is observable and true about the earth; based upon scientific and practical observation, plus what has been revealed by God through Scripture.

    These threads are a good example of the problems associated with falling into yet another either/or dialectical argument to sow division.

    Relevant part starts at 18:53-20:55



    Yep.  We'ze jus humans askin questions. 

    Gathering evidence.

    Weighing the evidence.

    Making observations.

    There are no dumb questions. 

    No winners or losers. 

    Just files with evidence.

    Smart people ask questions.

    Dumb people laugh and mock those who ask questions.

    Science is never settled.
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