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Online Ladislaus

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Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
« Reply #855 on: December 16, 2021, 06:54:00 PM »
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    • What are you guys babbling about?  Suns rays would never be localized nor would you have hotspots on top of the clouds from 93 million miles away.  Clouds don't go much higher than 20,000 feet.

    You continue to operate from a position of ignorance and therefore use strawmen against the flat earth position.

    Rays of the sun work against globe earth and not in favor of it.

    But even if you don't believe that, I love how you guys always throw the magical "refraction" out there but then ignore the possibility that things can get refracted when you think you found some proof in your favor.  Globers routinely show pictures of the sun they claim prove their position, but then immediately howl refraction when something is shown that isn't in their favor.

    Thanks for the nice pictures, and more unscientific and anecdotal "evidence".
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    Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
    « Reply #856 on: December 16, 2021, 06:56:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on December 16, 2021, 06:54:00 PM
    What are you guys babbling about?  Suns rays would never be localized nor would you have hotspots on top of the clouds from 93 million miles away.  Clouds don't go much higher than 20,000 feet.

    You continue to operate from a position of ignorance and therefore use strawmen against the flat earth position.

    Rays of the sun work against globe earth and not in favor of it.

    Thanks for the nice pictures, and more unscientific and anecdotal "evidence".


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    Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
    « Reply #857 on: December 16, 2021, 07:01:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on December 16, 2021, 06:22:25 PM
    F-16 pilot attests to the Flat Earth

    He also was asked at one point why he wanted to come out as a Flat Earther.  He said that it was because of COVID.  He would denounce all the cowards who refused to publicly come out against the jabs and the plandemic scam, and then realized he too was a coward.  He was afraid of ridicule, etc.  So he realized that he had an obligation to come out with the truth.  And this is why more pilots and other experts who know the truth won't come out.  They're afraid of the ridicule, and for those still working, being blackballed and losing their jobs, just as with COVID.
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    Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
    « Reply #858 on: December 16, 2021, 07:04:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on December 16, 2021, 06:22:25 PM
    F-16 pilot attests to the Flat Earth

    Counterpoints:



    And about flying and "drop":

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    Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
    « Reply #859 on: December 16, 2021, 07:09:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miser Peccator on December 16, 2021, 02:51:09 PM
    Dave Weiss has videos that explain the seasons pretty well.
    Actually the flat earth sun/moon  skyclock app is really worth it
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    Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
    « Reply #860 on: December 16, 2021, 07:12:38 PM »
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    • Please, please ,please someone show me  a PHOTO of the full earth from space that is NOT CGI. 
    (there isn't any except a composite picture in 1972 -everything else is a rendering)
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    Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
    « Reply #861 on: December 16, 2021, 07:15:31 PM »
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    Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
    « Reply #862 on: December 16, 2021, 07:15:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on December 16, 2021, 07:09:55 PM
    Actually the flat earth sun/moon  skyclock app is really worth it

    Yes, I really like that app.
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    Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
    « Reply #863 on: December 16, 2021, 07:20:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on December 16, 2021, 06:26:45 PM
    Look at the jetstreams on a globe and they look ridiculous, but you flatten them out onto a flat earth map (based on Azimuthal equidistant projection) and suddenly they're in nearly-perfect circles. 

    No, if the jet streams vary in latitude on a globe, they are not circles on the flat earth map, they also vary in latitude.

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    Luncar eclipses during the day.

    You repeat this yet again. Lunar eclipses are possible when it is light out, near dawn or dusk.

    Show me a lunar eclipse at noon and we'll have something to talk about!
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    Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
    « Reply #864 on: December 16, 2021, 07:27:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: Marion on December 16, 2021, 06:56:21 PM

    :facepalm:

    See, THIS^^^ is how these guys roll.  Facepalms, laughing smilies ridicule, etc.  If it isn't that, then it's Stanley "mansplaining" to us that it's "not how aviation works" ... when there are professional aviators, who actually KNOW about aviation, who are firm flat earthers.  I've seen many such interviews, from pilots, to a guy who owns his own flight school.  There was a pilot from Australia who kept making this route between Australia and the US West Coast, and he could never figure out why he kept flying close to Alaska.  Then he saw a flat earth map and it dawned on him.  I've seen these pilots explaining on white boards why there's no curvature.  Flight Training manuals all stipulate that all the principles stated therein "assume a flat, non-rotating earth."  These pilots all aver this, but then say, initially they figured it was just because the curvature stuff would make it too complicated and that there would be a Part II or "Advanced Aviation" but that never came.
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    Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
    « Reply #865 on: December 16, 2021, 07:28:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on December 16, 2021, 07:15:31 PM


    That's the "perspective matrix with conversion point at your horizon" he says! Really good! Sounds like a hotline response from Boing. Ticket closed.

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    Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
    « Reply #866 on: December 16, 2021, 07:31:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: Marion on December 16, 2021, 07:28:38 PM

    That's the "perspective matrix with conversion point at your horizon" he says! Really good! Sounds like a hotline response from Boing. Ticket closed.

    :jester::jester::fryingpan::fryingpan:

    Another buffoonish response.  I've seen it myself.  You watch a sunset near the ocean, and you can see the beam of light making a line from the sun directly to you.  It's not actually there.  If a guy 20 yards away looks at the water in front of you, there's no ray of light there.
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    Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
    « Reply #867 on: December 16, 2021, 07:39:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on December 16, 2021, 07:31:54 PM
    Another buffoonish response.  I've seen it myself.  You watch a sunset near the ocean, and you can see the beam of light making a line from the sun directly to you.  It's not actually there.  If a guy 20 yards away looks at the water in front of you, there's no ray of light there.

    You're the only one talking about visible rays and lines. The images are about clouds lit from below by the sun.

    Everbody can see the "rays":

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    Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
    « Reply #868 on: December 16, 2021, 07:46:28 PM »
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    Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
    « Reply #869 on: December 16, 2021, 07:50:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on December 16, 2021, 07:31:54 PM
    Another buffoonish response.  I've seen it myself.  You watch a sunset near the ocean, and you can see the beam of light making a line from the sun directly to you.  It's not actually there.  If a guy 20 yards away looks at the water in front of you, there's no ray of light there.

    https://www.scienceabc.com/nature/why-does-the-sun-reflect-off-seas-and-oceans.html



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    Another interesting thing about these different images of the sun formed on the water’s surface is that they move along with the viewer. This is due to the fact that when sunlight falls on the ocean’s surface, it’s reflected in all directions, but you see the illuminated line due to the light rays that are specifically entering your eyes.

    There is no beam of light moving across the water and following the observer around.  It's due to angles and light reflecting.  So long as there is light coming in your direction from the sun it can reflect off of surfaces, and it's a mirror effect based on your perspective of observation.

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