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Wow! Saying that there is "consistent agreement" means that there is disagreement.
That's obvious. Consistent means "generally", "mostly", "typically". It does not mean fully, completely, or all.
You said yourself St Bede's writings are in latin, so how do you know they exactly agree?
I would like more opinions.
Medieval manuscripts blog24 May 2018‘The Earth is, in fact, round’It’s a major peeve of many medieval historians: the popular belief that people who lived before Christopher Columbus thought that the world was flat. It is actually rare to find groups in the classical, Late Antique and medieval eras who believed in the flat Earth. On the contrary, numerous ancient thinkers, navigators and artists observed that the Earth was round.Miniature of the Earth in a circle, with personifications of the four cardinal points, made in England in the 3rd quarter of the 13th century: Egerton MS 843, f. 23r The first recorded, unambiguous European references to a spherical Earth are found in the work of ancient Greek philosophers, such as Plato and Aristotle. By the time the Roman writer Pliny the Elder was writing the first part of his Natural History around AD 77, the fact that the Earth is a sphere was treated as common knowledge: ‘We all agree on the earth’s shape. For surely we always speak of the round ball of the Earth’ (Pliny, Natural History, II.64).Opening page of a much later copy of Pliny’s Historia naturalis, made in Rome in 1457 or 1458: Harley MS 2677, f. 1rThese views continued into the medieval period, since even the changing hours of daylight throughout the year made it evident that the Earth was round. Around 723 or 725, the monk Bede explained to his students:‘The reason why the same days are of unequal length is the roundness of the Earth, for not without reason is it called ‘‘the orb of the world’’ on the pages of Holy Scripture and of ordinary literature. It is, in fact, a sphere set in the middle of the whole universe. It is not merely circular like a shield [or] spread out like a wheel, but resembles more a ball, being equally round in all directions ...’ (Bede, The Reckoning of Time, translated by Faith Wallis (Liverpool University Press, 1999), p. 91).Explanation of the Earth as a sphere, from a copy of Bede, De Temporum Ratione, made in England or Normandy, late 11th or early 12th century: Royal MS 13 A XI, f. 62r This belief was also reflected in many medieval maps. Round diagrams of the Earth were included in the works of Isidore of Seville. Meanwhile, a map that was often circulated with the work of the 5th-century writer Macrobius showed the climate zones of Earth divided into northern and southern hemispheres.Diagram of the habitable zones of the Earth, from Macrobius, Commentarii in Ciceronis Somnium Scipionis, France or England: Add MS 11943, f. 38v The idea that the Earth was round was not limited to tracts on science and natural history. Much medieval art also depicted the Earth as a sphere. For this reason, depictions of God the Creator often show him holding a compass, a tool used to draw round objects.Depiction of God creating the Earth with a compass and scales, from the Tiberius Psalter, Winchester, mid-11th century: Cotton MS Tiberius C VI, f. 7v Depiction of God the Creator holding a compass, from a Bible historiale made in Paris and Clairefontaine, 1411: Royal MS 19 D III, f. 3rMany writers also assumed the Earth was a sphere. Dante’s Divine Comedy even discussed how the shape of the world created different time zones, and how different stars were visible in the southern and northern hemispheres.Of course, even though earlier thinkers knew the world was round, they did not fully understand how it worked. Without a theory of gravity, Pliny struggled to understand how people who lived in the southern hemisphere did not fall off the world, while Bede denied that anyone lived in the southern hemisphere at all. (Bede was wrong, as you can see in the British Library’s summer 2018 exhibition, James Cook: The Voyages.) Diagrams using human figures to show the round shape of Earth, from a copy of Gossuin de Metz’s ‘L’Image du Monde’ made in Bruges, 1464: Royal MS 19 A IX, f. 42r Nevertheless, there is one thing on which most human thinkers, for most of history, have agreed — as Bede put it, 'the Earth is, in fact, a sphere'.
Actually, looking back, he was kinda practicing the Scholastic method. We used "conservative" science books which talked about creationism instead of evolution, but he gave us both sides. He taught us about evolution and where it didn't make sense. He taught us Church history and Scripture on creation. He MADE US THINK. He challenged us. He did the same thing with geocentrism vs heliocentrism. Most people don't give kids enough credit. They can see stupidity and lies if you give them a proper comparison. The govt knows this...that's why they ban creationism and geocentrism in schools.
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Did everyone who mentioned "sphere" explain it the same way? THAT is the key thing. Just mentioning "sphere" doesn't show the same understanding of the how the world is laid out and operates.
*sigh* But St Bede wasn't from Medieval times, but 500 years before.
In the history of Europe, the Middle Ages or medieval period lasted approximately from the 5th to the late 15th centuries,
Or...could one interpretation of "sphere" refer to the atmosphere dome?
*sigh* But St Bede wasn't from Medieval times, but 500 years before. What evidence is there to suggest he viewed sphere earth in the same way as Aristotle or Ptolemy?Or...could one interpretation of "sphere" refer to the atmosphere dome?Thirdly, what evidence is there to suggest that St Augustine viewed "sphere" in the same way as Aristotle? Further, Did St Bede reference St Augustine?Just because they used the word "sphere" doesn't mean they meant the same thing.
You cherry pick this one but ignore the HUNDREDS of others where the person gave precise measurements, showed the math, calculated atmospheric conditions (in various places around the world), etc. There are literally hundreds of videos out there showing precisely that. Oops a boat disappears. Now zoom in. Oh, it's back. This guy in the video just showed one perspective, no zooming.So the fact that you cherry pick this one and ignore the hundreds of others showing the exact opposite simply shows your intellectual dishonesty.
the earth is similar to a globe.
Has anyone responded to the constellation obection? How you can only see the northern star in the northern hemisphere and constellations that can be seen in Aussie land can't be seen from the USA or Europe.