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Author Topic: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?  (Read 160823 times)

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
« Reply #135 on: December 02, 2021, 09:06:54 PM »
Isn't is another unproven fallacy that gravity comes from the center of the earth?  Round earth depends on this foundation.

Absolutely.  No one has ever demonstrated that "masses" per se attract one another, much less that they can act on one another over a distance.  If you were to place a massive object somewhere and then suspend a marble next to it on a string ... in vaccuм and zero-G environment ... they would absolutely not move toward one another.  If there were such a thing as a zero-G or low-G space station, that could have been one of the first things proven conclusively, that masses should move toward one another.  But it can't be demonstrated ... because it doesn't exist.

No, things are drawn toward the earth for an entirely different reason.  Now the earth itself has a negative charge, while the atmosphere has a positive charge.  I've seen experiments done between two plates where the polarity was changed, so that the negative charge was above it and the positive charge below, and the object flew up and clung to the top plate.  I forget the name of the mechanism that was used.

So the fact that things move toward the earth is likely some function of electro-magnetism or else the pressure of ether, as Tesla held.

Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
« Reply #136 on: December 02, 2021, 09:09:50 PM »
Nobody knows.  My opinion is that the moon is in or above the firmament and is in fact not a sphere but, rather, is concave, or at least it appears concave when shining on the firmament, which in general would be concave from our perspective.

Simple fact is that stars can be seen THROUGH the moon, and it appears translucent.  It's not a spherical rock as scientists claim.
Prof. Foster in 1965 speculated that the moon was a plasma, and not rock, as mainstream science claims.



You're a flat brain fool, Ladislaus, who doesn't know what he's talking about! Wake up!
"But I say to you, that whosoever is angry with his brother, shall be in danger of the judgment. And whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council. And whosoever shall say, Thou Fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."
[Matthew 5:22]

The sheer vitriol lobbed at anyone who suggests other than the mainstream narrative on the shape of the earth is mind-boggling to me. Everyone on here is a skeptic of everything that the worldlings tell us about reality except the shape of the earth and the movement of the planets and stars in the Firmament.

The subject of the electric universe and earth being similar to an electrolytic dome battery is most interesting as well.
https://tv.gab.com/channel/yafer/view/what-on-earth-happened-part-x-602962980ad6f0deab1657e4

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
« Reply #137 on: December 02, 2021, 09:11:28 PM »
:jester:  :jester:  :jester:


But you know that the earth is flat.  :fryingpan:

And after Walter van der Kamp you dishonestly (or ignorantly and foolishly?) misuse Nicola Tesla as a witness for your flat heap of dung.


Which ones? Nicola Tesla? Walter van der Kamp?

You contribute nothing to the conversation.  One can cite one scientist for one thing, and another for another ... just as one might cite St. Thomas Aquinas, but then cite some other authority regarding the Immaculate Conception.  Point of citing scientists is precisely to demonstrate that there's no monolithic consensus.

Yes, I know that the earth is flat.  There's plenty of evidence for it.  Simply because I don't have millions of dollars to go send something up to the moon to investigate its true nature does not mean that there's nothing I can know.

You arguments are absurd, and you're acting like a complete buffoon.

Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
« Reply #138 on: December 02, 2021, 09:13:40 PM »
SOMEthing can be measured, but even scientists admit that they have no idea WHAT is that they're measuring.  Nobody knows what it is.  It used to be a "force" but that's now rejected.  Latest is Einstein's claim that it's just a bending of time-space.

I answered this one before. What is detected, and measured, is called gravity.

Without explanation is, how it works.


You really are completely fooled by postmodern ideas. You should aquire some basics of real philosophy.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
« Reply #139 on: December 02, 2021, 09:16:18 PM »
The sheer vitriol lobbed at anyone who suggests other than the mainstream narrative on the shape of the earth is mind-boggling to me.

Yes, this says something here.  What does it matter to them if some fool has what they consider a nutty idea?  Move along.  If someone on the street came by and told me he believed that reptilian alients from Alpha Centauri ran the local gas station, I'd just roll my eyes and move along.  I'm not going to take the time to point fingers and insult and ridicule the person.

Propaganda about the globe has been so deeply instilled in people that it causes extreme psychological discomfort to people to think that their entire view of the world has been a massive lie.

Even if you don't believe that the earth is flat, just do a simple thought experiment.  Just imagine that it IS flat, that you just discovered that the earth is flat and coverered by a firmament ... and that everything you thought you knew was a lie.  It's a bit painful to think about.  And that's why you get the vitriol and hostility.