Right back at you, bud.  You'll realize someday what a fool you've been.

I realize already now that you're a fool right here, not even able to provide a possible flat earth model compatible with moon phases and eclipses.

If the earth is flat then how do ships disappear from the bottom upwards as they go over the horizon?

If the earth is flat then how do ships disappear from the bottom upwards as they go over the horizon?

They don’t.  It’s an optical effect.  If you have a telescope or good camera, you can bring the entire ship back into view after it had appeared to go below the horizon.  On the contrary, experiment after experiment has shown that there’s no curvature, including one by a guy who simply did not want to believe the results.  We see way too far.  That’s actually a major reason for the resurgence of Flat Earth.  People can buy Nikon P900 or P1000 cameras and verify this themselves.  Groups have spotted lasers from 25+ miles away when they should not have been visible due to earth curvature.

This, at the very least, seems to prove the Earth is graduated.

Groups have spotted lasers from 25+ miles away when they should not have been visible due to earth curvature.

You're still repeating that garbage "science"?

You're still repeating that garbage "science"?

Nope.  There have been hundreds of tests conducted, using both cameras and lasers that see too far ... including one by a guy who did not believe in Flat Earth, and lined up mountains of identical elevation from a place in North Carolina, where the mountains were 30 miles apart and yet still appeared to have the same elevation.  He was completely stumped and was desperately asking for answers.  I even saw one where a team in South America used precision GPS equipment to demonstrate tall buildings miles apart, which should have the tops farther apart than their bottoms, did not but instead were parallel to one another.  There was the WW2 German weapon that realied upon direct line of site waves that British intelligence got wind of and dismissed because it couldn't reach from Germany over the curvature of the earth ... but then the Germans successfully bombed them.  Long-distance photographers (who were just doing it to test the limits of photography and didn't cosider the implicatiois) have photographs mountains from a couple hundred miles away when they should have been hidden by the earth's curvature.  It goes on and on for hours.

You think you "win" simply be calling it "garbage" and linking to one "debunking" video.  I've seen most of the debunking videos debunked.  There was one program on PBS that purported to prove earth's curvature using a helicopter, but it was exposed as fake footage when an identical flock of birds and identical wave and cloud patterns appeared, demonstrating that the helicopter was superimposed on the exact same background both when it was going down and when it was rising up.

This video presents the only comeback the globers ever have:  the magical refraction.  But refractions has been debunked as a possible explanation.  One team doing a laser study actually took temperature and humidity readings all across the length o the laser beam and calculated the maximum refraction that could have been achieved given the atmospheric conditions.

For those who are truly interested in the question and have open minds, there's tons of evidence in favor of flat earth out there.  Unfortunately it's increasingly difficult to find because Big Tech has ruthlessly censored it.  I'll try to start a thread with links to the videos in the Flat Earth subforum.

But that right there is a huge clue that flat eathers are onto something ... very heavy Big Tech censorship.  It's actually easier to find 9/11 truth videos than it is good flat earth materials.  But I'll start compiling them.

Another huge clue, not about flat earth per se, but about that fact that the earth is covered by a dome is the fact that we have an atmosphere with atmospheric pressure.  If the atmosphere were adjacent to a vacuum, it would literally get sucked off the planet by space.  (Yes, I recognize that the atmosphere pushes into the vacuum, but the effect can be described relatively in that manner).  "Gravity" does not have sufficient strength to explain this away.  In addition, you cannot have air pressure except within a container.  Laws of physics demand that the earth's atmosphere would disperese into space and would not remain on the planet.

Laws of physics demand that the earth's atmosphere would disperese into space and would not remain on the planet.

No they do not. That you even suggest it demonstrates again that you are scientifically illiterate.

The velocity it takes for an object to escape into space is called, not surprisingly, escape velocity. If an object goes above escape velocity, it can escape into space.

For the molecules that make up the atmosphere, practically speaking, that only happens with the lightest molecules, helium and hydrogen, which is why there isn't a lot of those elements in the atmosphere.

It's clear from your other posts that responding to you is a waste of time. You bring up all sorts of nonsense but do not link to anything specific that could be refuted. It's as if you're afraid your "arguments" would be shown to be the nonsense that they are.