Author Topic: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying? (Read 161350 times)

Marion · « **Reply #80 on:** November 30, 2021, 07:30:51 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on November 30, 2021, 04:59:25 PM

Circuмnavigation is as easily accomplished on a flat plane as it is on a globe. And he would have counted fewer sunrises because of the directon of the sun's rotation over the earth.

But the navigation data of Magalhães showed curvature. The Portuguese measured north-south curvature even before Magalhães, when they sailed the western coast of Africa. And Magalhães additionally detected east-west curvature.

How does the sun move in your model? Which trajectory? How many fewer sunrises?

Marion · « **Reply #81 on:** November 30, 2021, 07:52:05 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on November 30, 2021, 05:05:06 PM

Marion is more worked up about this issue than if I had blasphemed or been promoting heresy.

The dark matter and energy of modern astronomy is ludicrous, and your dark globe-objects producing the shadows of globes are likewise ludicrous. Instructed by Eric Dubay, you copy the dishonesty/presumptuousness of standard astronomy.

Quote from: Ladislaus on November 29, 2021, 08:00:45 AM

Gravity per se has never been proven to exist.

Gravity is the term used to denote the general observation that objects are heavy. No man in his right mind ever needed a proof for gravity.

Marion · « **Reply #82 on:** November 30, 2021, 07:54:56 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on November 30, 2021, 05:05:06 PM

Marion is more worked up about this issue than if I had blasphemed or been promoting heresy. Why should you care so much?

The Lord is the truth, not only with respect to canonized truth.

Stanley N · « **Reply #83 on:** November 30, 2021, 08:05:46 PM »

Quote from: Marion on November 30, 2021, 07:30:51 PM

How does the sun move in your model? Which trajectory? How many fewer sunrises?

In the model Lad peddles, the sun and moon go in daily circles above a disk. The circles vary in size throughout the year, and the sun is more like a spotlight.

I think even in this model, over one circuмnavigation (going in a circle around the "north pole"), you either get one fewer or one more sunrise, depending on the direction.

This model still has several problems. One is that it doesn't work for the times when the southern hemisphere has longer days.

See below, starting about 4:30. (He's rather abrupt in his criticisms, but a globe was settled science in the middle ages.)

Stanley N · « **Reply #84 on:** November 30, 2021, 08:31:39 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on November 30, 2021, 05:03:59 PM

As far as predicting eclipses, that was being done a long time before anyone had any conception regarding the size of the world or distance from the sun (which has been revised multiple times from about 2 million all the way up to 93 million miles) ... simply because eclipses appear with regularity. You simply have to plot them in a table and you can easily calculate future eclipses to within minutes. Ancient cultures predicted them.

The question is does your FE model predict eclipses using the model?

Saying eclipses can be done by tables doesn't show (or even claim!) that your FE model makes the same predictions.

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