Author Topic: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying? (Read 160047 times)

Ladislaus · « **Reply #515 on:** December 08, 2021, 03:32:20 PM »

Quote from: Jaynek on December 08, 2021, 03:11:09 PM

And yet another straw man argument. I did not say that.

Anyhow I'm done with the thread. I think that Romulus was right.

Not directly, no. But you're starting to slide in that direction. I was around the Modernists for many years, and I know how they think. They repeatedy argue that many of the events reported as historical by Sacred Scripture were not accurate (i.e. were erroneous) but that's OK because they were intended to teach about "spiritual matters". So when someone starts emphasizing the Scriptures' intent to teach spiritual matters, that sets off the alarm.

You didn't answer my question.

Do you believe that Scripture is inerrant even scientific matters?

Do you believe, for instance, that man has only been around for about 6,000 years?

Ladislaus · « **Reply #516 on:** December 08, 2021, 03:42:23 PM »

Quote from: Romulus on December 08, 2021, 11:16:40 AM

Well, the ancient greeks believed the earth was round. They were the first to calculate the diameter-circuмference of the earth using 2 cities at the same time at a particular date. So several ancient civilizations believed in the round earth

Globers really have to stop using Eratosthenes. His experiment was badly flawed. He made assumptions about the distance between the earth and the sun (which ended up wildly wrong by modern calculations. I think he said one million miles) and also made no account of the possibility of atmospheric refraction. I love how the globers constantly pull the "refraction" rabbit out of their hat when it's convenient but then they completely ignore the notion that failing to take it into account invalidates Eratosthenes. Double standard.

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #517 on:** December 08, 2021, 03:56:41 PM »

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Even if it were appropriate to use Scripture to support cosmology,

So you're saying it's NOT appropriate to use Scripture to support cosmology. That's stupid and wrong. Your interpretation of what St Augustine was saying is way off.

Reading comprehension, people!

Romulus · « **Reply #518 on:** December 08, 2021, 04:01:21 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on December 08, 2021, 03:42:23 PM

Globers really have to stop using Eratosthenes. His experiment was badly flawed. He made assumptions about the distance between the earth and the sun (which ended up wildly wrong by modern calculations. I think he said one million miles) and also made no account of the possibility of atmospheric refraction. I love how the globers constantly pull the "refraction" rabbit out of their hat when it's convenient but then they completely ignore the notion that failing to take it into account invalidates Eratosthenes. Double standard.

The experiment wasn't the point of my statement, rather, the greeks believed in a globe earth. It's not a 15th century invention.

On another note, I am bowing out of this thread cya all later.

DecemRationis · « **Reply #519 on:** December 08, 2021, 04:05:00 PM »

Pancakes are better than oranges.

There, it's settled.

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