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Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
« Reply #140 on: December 02, 2021, 09:17:10 PM »
Yes, I know that the earth is flat.  There's plenty of evidence for it.  Simply because I don't have millions of dollars to go send something up to the moon to investigate its true nature does not mean that there's nothing I can know.

:laugh1:

Using simple binoculars, people observe that the moon shows always the same face to anyone, wherever he may be on earth.

Even a flat moon, or a concave moon, would look different seen from different locations on earth.

Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
« Reply #141 on: December 02, 2021, 09:18:21 PM »
Yes, I know that the earth is flat.  There's plenty of evidence for it.

You repeatedly claim there's plenty of evidence for it, but never provide that evidence.

Simple fact is that stars can be seen THROUGH the moon, and it appears translucent.

Prove it. This sounds like nonsense.

Except that nobody's ever measured any force of gravity between two non-planetary objects.  It was invented precisely to back the heliocentric theory.  What we experience here on earth is most likey due to the fact that the earth is negatively charged and/or the pressure of ether (which is what Tesla held).

Yes, you can measure the force of attraction between two non-planetary objects. It's done routinely in college physics classes and matches that predicted by the law of gravity.

Charges cannot be related to gravity in any direct way, or we could change what objects weigh by changing their charges. That doesn't happen.

And the only answer consistent with all experiments is that there is no luminiferous ether. [That doesn't rule out certain other types of "ether" that don't interact with light.)

Either it's level or it bends, ball earthers want it both ways. They can't have it both ways.

Draw a circle on a piece of paper. Are all points on the circle the same distance from the center of the circle? Yes. Is the circle curved? Yes.
So you can have it "both ways".


Offline Yeti

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Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
« Reply #142 on: December 02, 2021, 09:24:09 PM »
:jester:  :jester:  :jester:


But you know that the earth is flat.  :fryingpan:

And after Walter van der Kamp you dishonestly (or ignorantly and foolishly?) misuse Nicola Tesla as a witness for your flat heap of dung.
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:confused: I agree with you that the earth is round but I really don't understand what you are so upset about? :confused:

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Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
« Reply #143 on: December 02, 2021, 09:27:21 PM »
:laugh1:

Using simple binoculars, people observe that the moon shows always the same face to anyone, wherever he may be on earth.

Yes, I'm glad you bring it up.  It's amazing that people can use "simple binoculars" to see 85-km wide features on a moon that's allegedly 263,000 miles away.  One of the most recognizable features on the moon, "Tycho's crater" is about 85 kilometers in diameter.  ONLY 85 kilometers, and you can see it with the naked eye, much less with "simple binoculars".  It's absurd that you can see something that's only 85 kilometers in diameter from 263,000 miles away.  Ridiculous.  Find something on Google Earth that's about 50-miles in diameter.  Now move the camera back out.  By the time you get to about 10,000 up, it becomes a tiny dot that you can't make out anymore.  Now take the distance out to 263,000 miles.  :laugh1:  And it can be seen with a "pair of binioculars".

Yeah, the face of the moon is the same precisely because it's NOT A ROTATING SPHERE.  It's utterly ridiculous that the moon's rotation is perfectly sychronized ... to the second ... with that of the earth.  Even if it were a few second off, the moon would have changed the side facing the earth at least some over hundreds and thousands of years.  Also, even though the moon is 400x smaller (allegedly than the sun), it JUST SO HAPPENS to be EXACTLY 400x farther away so that it's size matches that of the sun during eclipses.

THOSE things are languable.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
« Reply #144 on: December 02, 2021, 09:31:42 PM »
Prove it. This sounds like nonsense.

Enjoy!