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Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
« Reply #125 on: December 02, 2021, 07:10:05 PM »
Gravity can't be measured? What do you mean? You can precisely calculate and measure this force that attracts every mass to every other mass in the universe.

Well, here on earth you can quite precisely calculate and measure gravity. With respect to the whole universe, it's not that simple. They have to postulate quite a bunch of "dark matter" (invented ex nihilo) to make the calculation work.

Just like Ladislaus, who invents "dark spherical bodies", to explain moon phases and eclipse shades on his fantasy flat earth.

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Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
« Reply #126 on: December 02, 2021, 07:26:38 PM »
Your statements don't make sense. The track is not flat, it follow the curvature of the ball. The train thusly also follows the curvature. And yes, if it were in a zero-gravity environment, with no atmospheric pressure, you probably wouldn't need any energy keeping the train in motion. But here on Earth, there's friction due to the downwards force (gravity), air resistance and all the moving parts that consume energy, so to keep the train in motion you need energy.

Gravity can't be measured? What do you mean? You can precisely calculate and measure this force that attracts every mass to every other mass in the universe.
Train track is flat according to ball earthers, yet they also think it bends to follow the curvature of the earth somehow.  Either it's level or it bends, ball earthers want it both ways. They can't have it both ways. My explanation is exactly as I meant it to be and if read as it is stated, without prejudice, makes perfect sense as an answer to someone.  Atmospheric pressure has no bearing here.  We're talking about level and curve which ball earth people somehow equalize.  If a train track is truly level, as in straight and flat and without bend, it cannot extend for hundreds of miles on a ball without exceeding the "gravitational level" pretense, nor would said track stay on the ground but wind up miles above ground because the track is straight but earth is curved.  But that never happens because earth is not curved. I said it every way possible before, this is just another way of stating facts.  Gravity cannot be measured, even according to authorities.  They have theories according to "planetary" objects, but even then, it isn't consistent because certain bodies defy "gravity" and there's no explanation for why.  In other words, "gravity" is a seriously flawed theory.  I'm not saying things don't fall at a certain rate, they do.  But that is totally different than the said gravity that attracts celestial objects together.  Even then, with all the lies coming out of the scientific community, we really don't know how that works, or if it even exists.   


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Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
« Reply #127 on: December 02, 2021, 07:31:33 PM »
Isn't is another unproven fallacy that gravity comes from the center of the earth?  Round earth depends on this foundation.

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Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
« Reply #128 on: December 02, 2021, 07:41:29 PM »
Isn't is another unproven fallacy that gravity comes from the center of the earth?  Round earth depends on this foundation.
I always was told the spin provided "gravity", so who knows with these ridiculous scientists always spouting contradictory things and floating them as fact.  The whole Rona, mask and jab debacle is clear evidence this kind of bait and switch nonsense is practically a given.  

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Re: Is refusing to accept an "obvious fact" a sin of lying?
« Reply #129 on: December 02, 2021, 08:17:41 PM »
the globe model is the tool of the Atheistic Elites.
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You have this backwards. The globe model has been accepted as a simple fact by the entire weight of western civilization for 2500 years.
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Rather, it is the flat earth model that was invented in the 19th century by a few cranks, who generally appear to have been lefties. Samuel Rowbotham's "Universal Zetetic Society" was continued after his death by a woman named Lady Elizabeth Blount. Here is a description of her:
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In addition to her work with the Universal Zetetic Society, she was also poet, songwriter and wrote pamphlets on a wide variety of subjects. Blount was a progressive thinker and humanitarian. She was a vegetarian and – like Marjory Johnson – an anti-vivisectionist, often using the Earth Not A Globe Review to “cover these subjects in flowing prose and verse, alongside references to her work as president of the Society for the Protection of the Dark Races”.
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So ... socialism, animal rights fanaticism, and Black Lives Matter. This is the person who is one of the founders of the modern flat earth movement.