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Re: Is Poland following the west?
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2019, 04:41:06 PM »
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  •  Poland is worse than American 1950s Catholicism.


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    Re: Is Poland following the west?
    « Reply #2 on: August 14, 2019, 04:46:15 PM »
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  • Poland is worse than American 1950s Catholicism.
    Yeah, they're just the best of a very bad bunch these days, and they're following the rest of the world to perdition.

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    Re: Is Poland following the west?
    « Reply #3 on: August 14, 2019, 09:27:02 PM »
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  • Yes, I'm afraid so.



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    Re: Is Poland following the west?
    « Reply #4 on: August 15, 2019, 07:59:11 AM »
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  • Not sure you can measure the strength of Catholicism in a country by fake polls which include answers from many non-catholics.  I'm not an expert on Poland but their catholic community is really growing, right?  Even if the growth of atheists/fake-protestants is also growing.  Catholicism and family situation is far better than here in the US or anywhere else in Europe (besides Hungary, maybe).  Gay marriage "support" (whatever that means; could have multiple meanings) doesn't measure every aspect of a nation.


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    Re: Is Poland following the west?
    « Reply #5 on: August 15, 2019, 09:46:44 AM »
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  • Not sure you can measure the strength of Catholicism in a country by fake polls which include answers from many non-catholics.  I'm not an expert on Poland but their catholic community is really growing, right?  Even if the growth of atheists/fake-protestants is also growing.  Catholicism and family situation is far better than here in the US or anywhere else in Europe (besides Hungary, maybe).  Gay marriage "support" (whatever that means; could have multiple meanings) doesn't measure every aspect of a nation.
    Something like 90% of their country is nominally Catholic.

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    Re: Is Poland following the west?
    « Reply #6 on: August 15, 2019, 09:57:57 AM »
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    Something like 90% of their country is nominally Catholic.
    My point is that there seems to be a growing Traditional catholic movement, or at least a growth of family-oriented culture there (in contrast to the US).  Most novus ordo catholics are actually protestants in thinking (many of these sects support gay marriage) so the 90% statistic is just that - a meaningless statistic.  No Western nation (and maybe not any nation on the planet) is immune from the sex/perversion culture we live in.  I'm just arguing that Poland seems to be making SOME progress in supporting orthodoxy and families.  I could be totally wrong, but in the US there's NO signs of this happening, (in fact, feminism and anti-family culture seems to be growing...even in the Trad/indult communities).  Meanwhile, Poland had millions of families show up for a pro-life/family march a while back.

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    Re: Is Poland following the west?
    « Reply #7 on: August 17, 2019, 03:11:40 PM »
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  • I think USA liberals are targeting Poland. 
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    Re: Is Poland following the west?
    « Reply #8 on: August 18, 2019, 12:01:41 AM »
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  • I think USA liberals are targeting Poland.
    It is what Pope Francis condemned. It is called economic colonialism. The West offers money (aid) but with the caveat that the receiving country change its laws to go along with what the donor nation decrees.

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    Re: Is Poland following the west?
    « Reply #9 on: August 18, 2019, 08:29:43 AM »
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  • It is what Pope Francis condemned. It is called economic colonialism. The West offers money (aid) but with the caveat that the receiving country change its laws to go along with what the donor nation decrees.

    Well, yes, that is a problem. But it's unlikely that Pope Francis would have a problem with the sodomite agenda being implemented in Poland. After all, who is he to judge?

    On the other hand, I recall listening last year to an interview on EWTN, where a convert was telling his conversion story. He was formerly a Mormon, and when he went on a mission to Poland, to convert the Catholics there, he himself was actually converted by them. There are devout Novus Ordo types there.

     

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