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Offline Miser Peccator

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Reign of Mary?
« on: May 02, 2021, 02:17:30 AM »
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    • Before or after the Antichrist?

    I've heard some say before and some say after.

    What say you and why?
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    Re: Reign of Mary?
    « Reply #1 on: May 02, 2021, 05:53:44 AM »
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    • Clearly before.  With the destruction of Antichrist comes the end of the world.
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    Re: Reign of Mary?
    « Reply #2 on: May 02, 2021, 06:21:42 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 02, 2021, 05:53:44 AM
    Clearly before.  With the destruction of Antichrist comes the end of the world.
    Some say there will be a time of peace on earth for 25 or maybe 100 years and then new heaven and earth is created.
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    Re: Reign of Mary?
    « Reply #3 on: May 02, 2021, 06:31:03 AM »
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    • That period of peace corresponds to Our Lady’s reign and comes before Antichrist.
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    Re: Reign of Mary?
    « Reply #4 on: May 02, 2021, 07:18:05 AM »
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    Some say there will be a time of peace on earth for 25 or maybe 100 years and then new heaven and earth is created.
    Yes, the Church Fathers talk about this time, when all the Jews finally convert, but this is definitely not the age of mary.  This would be the actual, social kingship of Christ realized on earth, then the world ends.  
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    Protestants and some V2 Catholics would call this period the “millennial” reign of Christ, but that’s a heresy.  
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    There was a thread all about this exact topic about 2 weeks ago.  
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    Re: Reign of Mary?
    « Reply #5 on: May 02, 2021, 08:06:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on May 02, 2021, 07:18:05 AM
    Yes, the Church Fathers talk about this time, when all the Jews finally convert, but this is definitely not the age of mary.  This would be the actual, social kingship of Christ realized on earth, then the world ends.  
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    Protestants and some V2 Catholics would call this period the “millennial” reign of Christ, but that’s a heresy.  
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    There was a thread all about this exact topic about 2 weeks ago.  
    Thanks.  Yeah I tried to find that thread and can't pull it up. 
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    Re: Reign of Mary?
    « Reply #6 on: May 02, 2021, 10:37:38 AM »
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    • Quote from: Miser Peccator on May 02, 2021, 02:17:30 AM
    Before or after the Antichrist?
    I've heard some say before and some say after.
    What say you and why?
    What does the Bible say?
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    Re: Reign of Mary?
    « Reply #7 on: May 02, 2021, 10:39:07 AM »
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    • Quote from: Miser Peccator on May 02, 2021, 08:06:20 AM
    Thanks.  Yeah I tried to find that thread and can't pull it up.
    Isn't it this one you yourself posted?
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    Re: Reign of Mary?
    « Reply #8 on: May 02, 2021, 10:40:06 AM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on May 02, 2021, 07:18:05 AM
    Yes, the Church Fathers talk about this time, when all the Jews finally convert,
    All? Not even close, buddy. No Church Father said "all". The Church has alluded to a minority of Jews converting, no more than 1/3.
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    Re: Reign of Mary?
    « Reply #9 on: May 02, 2021, 10:49:13 AM »
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    • Some people think the reign of peace before the antichrist is a false prophecy made to trick people into joining the armies of the supposedly Great Monarch who will supposedly bring in this reign, but he will really be the antichrist and fool everyone into worshiping him. I am not saying I believe this, but it is interesting.
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    Re: Reign of Mary?
    « Reply #10 on: May 02, 2021, 11:09:27 AM »
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    • Quote from: Disputaciones on May 02, 2021, 10:39:07 AM
    Isn't it this one you yourself posted?
    Ah!  There it is.  Thanks. :)
    Sorry about the double thread but when I searched for it there were 0 matches. :/
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    Re: Reign of Mary?
    « Reply #11 on: May 02, 2021, 11:14:16 AM »
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    • Quote from: Biggins on May 02, 2021, 10:40:06 AM
    All? Not even close, buddy. No Church Father said "all". The Church has alluded to a minority of Jews converting, no more than 1/3.
    8 And there shall be in all the earth, saith the Lord, two parts in it shall be scattered, and shall perish: but the third part shall be left therein.
    9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined: and I will try them as gold is tried. They shall call on my name, and I will hear them. I will say: Thou art my people: and they shall say: The Lord is my God.
    ~ Zacharias 13:8-9

    Haydock Catholic Bible commentary of apropos verses:
    Ver. 8. Third. The greatest part of mankind will be lost. (Haydock) --- The few Jews who embrace the faith will be absorbed in the Gentile converts, and suffered to live, though proved by persecutions, while the rest shall be exterminated. Both shall lose their name, and be styled Christians. (Calmet) --- Those who adhere to Judaism, or to paganism, cannot be saved. This is the privilege only of Christian Catholics, who live piously, and are selected by God's grace. (Worthington)

    Ver. 9. Fire. The Church was persecuted during the first centuries; but always became more pure, and the blood of martyrs increased her numbers. (Calmet) --- She faithfully adhered to God. (Haydock) --- The Jews say this will not take place at last: "but we assert that it is already accomplished." (St. Jerome)

    https://web.archive.org/web/20170627193123/http://haydock1859.tripod.com/id723.html
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    Re: Reign of Mary?
    « Reply #12 on: May 02, 2021, 12:46:57 PM »
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    trick people into joining the armies of the supposedly Great Monarch 
    But nearly all the prophecies that mention the Great Monarch say that he will be crowned by, and work with, the Angelic Pope (who will restore the Church).  The Monarch doesn’t just appear and take power himself; he also works to restore the Faith, morality and the family.  
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    « Reply #13 on: May 02, 2021, 12:54:36 PM »
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    All? Not even close, buddy. No Church Father said "all". The Church has alluded to a minority of Jews converting, no more than 1/3.
    Before the end of the world, the Jews, as a religion, will be converted fully.
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    The 10th century French Abbot Adso:

    "Lest the Antichrist come suddenly and without warning and deceive and destroy the whole human race by his error, before his arrival the two great prophets Enoch and Elijah will be sent into the world. They will defend God's faithful against the attack of the Antichrist with divine arms and will instruct, comfort, and prepare the elect for battle with three and a half years teaching and preaching. These two very great prophets and teachers will convert the sons of Israel who will live in that time to the faith, and they will make their belief unconquerable among the elect in the face of the affliction of so great a storm. At that time what scripture says will be fulfilled 'If the number of sons of Israel be like the sand of the sea, their remnant will be saved'."

    St. Thomas Aquinas in Commentary on Epistle to the Romans:

    "The blindness of the Jews will endure until the fullness of the gentiles have accepted the faith.  And this is in accord with what the Apostle says below about the salvation of the Jews, namely, that after the fullness of the nations have entered, 'all Israel will be saved', not individually as at present, but universally." ...

     "What, I say, will such an admission effectuate, if not that it bring the Gentiles back to life? The Gentiles would be the believers whose faith has grown cold, or even that the totality, deceived by the Antichrist, fall and are restored to their pristine fervor by the admission of the Jews." 

    St. Robert Bellarmine in De Summo Pontifice (I, 3):

     "the coming of Enoch and Elias, who live even now and shall live until they come to oppose Antichrist himself, and to preserve the elect in the faith of Christ, and in the end shall convert the Jews, and it is certain that this is not yet fulfilled."

    Pope Innocent III in Regi Francorum (a letter about the Jews to the Kings of France and Germany):

    “not displeasing to the Lord, but rather, acceptable to Him that the Dispersion of the Jews should live and do service under Catholic Kings and Christian princes – the remnants of which then will finally be saved (Romans 9:3-24), since in those days Judah will be saved (Jeremiah 33:6-26) and Israel will dwell in mutual trust.” 
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