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Offline Seraphina

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Re: Insanity in the modern world - male-female close friendships
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2018, 01:28:04 PM »
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  • This goes both ways.

    Women thinking that men are attracted to the same things we do (leadership, resources, independence, strength, etc). That is why modern women brag about their degrees, successful careers, or "I make more money than you", etc...like men actually cared about those things; (instead of looks). It is laughable.

    It is as if each sex projects itself into the other, being actually clueless of each other; instead of recognizing that we do seem different species; only to be united for the procreation of families in Marriage.  

    I think this is, for the most part, a modern phenomenon, though. People before used to have a better perception of the differences between male and female nature.
    Very true!  If I see a guy who is barechested, flexing his muscles, his body tanned and oiled, bragging about how many pounds he can benchpress, I dismiss him as an immature, arrogant jerk.  Likewise, if a man looks too feminine, wears skinny jeans, designer shoes, flaunts his designer labels, hairdo, and carries a shoulder bag, (Max Krah?), he's a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.  The only temptation is to judge rashly.
    While I'd prefer a large man, the outdoorsy logger-type, looks aren't everything.  I'd be looking for respectfulness, moral and spiritual leadership, strength of character.  If he's too fat, out of shape, a sloppy dresser, those things can be remedied.  
    A friend of my family's once went to a job interview for a dean of discipline at a private boys' school.  When asked to describe himself, he replied, "short, fat, bald, and ugly."  He was hired the same day.


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    Re: Insanity in the modern world - male-female close friendships
    « Reply #16 on: July 13, 2018, 01:32:42 PM »
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    But the woman is "happily married" with 4 children.  What's her excuse?
    Oh, i missed that fact.  She's probably the typical feminized woman who has a career, makes most the money in the marriage, married a pushover (but nice) guy, who takes care of the kids and will let her go wherever she wants after work.  She probably spends her social time hanging with friends or getting into new hobbies, because she "works a lot" and needs to "de stress" from the kids.  She's probably burned out on being a mother and is looking for some excitement in her "boring" life.

    Or, she was honestly going to this class to stay fit, and even with 4 children, she still is attractive enough where some random guy is flirting with her in a metro-sɛҳuąƖ-were-just-friends way, and she let herself get sucked in, when she had no intention of doing so.  Affairs usually happen step-by-step, just like with other grave sins. 


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    Re: Insanity in the modern world - male-female close friendships
    « Reply #17 on: July 13, 2018, 01:35:12 PM »
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  • Very true!  If I see a guy who is barechested, flexing his muscles, his body tanned and oiled, bragging about how many pounds he can benchpress, I dismiss him as an immature, arrogant jerk. 

    Very likely gαy too.  All of the male models with the most sculpted physiques are gαy.  In fact, most male models in general are gαy.  Straight men find that kind of vanity repugnant in other men.

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    Re: Insanity in the modern world - male-female close friendships
    « Reply #18 on: July 13, 2018, 01:36:34 PM »
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  • Oh, i missed that fact.  She's probably the typical feminized woman who has a career, makes most the money in the marriage, married a pushover (but nice) guy, who takes care of the kids and will let her go wherever she wants after work.  She probably spends her social time hanging with friends or getting into new hobbies, because she "works a lot" and needs to "de stress" from the kids.  She's probably burned out on being a mother and is looking for some excitement in her "boring" life.

    You probably hit that on the nose.

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    Re: Insanity in the modern world - male-female close friendships
    « Reply #19 on: July 13, 2018, 02:40:46 PM »
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  • Oh, i missed that fact.  She's probably the typical feminized woman who has a career, makes most the money in the marriage, married a pushover (but nice) guy, who takes care of the kids and will let her go wherever she wants after work.  She probably spends her social time hanging with friends or getting into new hobbies, because she "works a lot" and needs to "de stress" from the kids.  She's probably burned out on being a mother and is looking for some excitement in her "boring" life.

    Or, she was honestly going to this class to stay fit, and even with 4 children, she still is attractive enough where some random guy is flirting with her in a metro-sɛҳuąƖ-were-just-friends way, and she let herself get sucked in, when she had no intention of doing so.  Affairs usually happen step-by-step, just like with other grave sins.

    Right on, in both paragraphs. Most affairs begin "innocently" with no intention of going all the way, to put it delicately. It probably starts out like this more often than not.

    Then the man (and/or the woman) decides he's not happy in his current marriage, decides he doesn't want to be "miserable" for the rest of his life or die without having a "fulfilled" life, so he divorces his wife to be with the second woman he's been having so much fun with.

    It's an old story, played out dozens of times every day.
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    Re: Insanity in the modern world - male-female close friendships
    « Reply #20 on: July 13, 2018, 04:18:50 PM »
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  • Men want sex.

    Women want to submit to the alpha.  If she has no alpha, she'll collect beta and gamma males to orbit her.

    That's how it is.
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    Re: Insanity in the modern world - male-female close friendships
    « Reply #21 on: July 13, 2018, 06:39:14 PM »
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  • The wife is handling it way better then I would.. I’ll just say that.

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    Re: Insanity in the modern world - male-female close friendships
    « Reply #22 on: July 14, 2018, 12:12:52 PM »
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  • Men want sex.

    Women want to submit to the alpha.  If she has no alpha, she'll collect beta and gamma males to orbit her.

    That's how it is.

    Your "relationship drivers" remind me of Bohr's electron orbits model.
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    Re: Insanity in the modern world - male-female close friendships
    « Reply #23 on: July 15, 2018, 09:49:22 PM »
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     I believe Croix that the newer generations primarily go after men for their looks.  
    With the advent of no-fault divorce, women can be just as superficial as men can be and they can choose a 'spouse' who's fun 'right now', instead of worrying about long-term.  Then if it doesn't work out (and it usually doesn't), then you can get re-married.  

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    Re: Insanity in the modern world - male-female close friendships
    « Reply #24 on: July 16, 2018, 10:31:22 AM »
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  • For some reason, though, that's shifting in the younger generations.  I believe Croix that the newer generations primarily go after men for their looks.  I heard an EWTN radio show where the priest said that statistics indicate that pretty much half of all visitors to porn sites are women / girls.
    That’s definitely something I’ve noticed. When I used to go to a wives group most wives were ENCOURAGING me to watch porn with my husband, and that it would spice things up. I kept thinking no all I’d be slicing up is my place in hell for commuting a mortal sin, and helping my husband commit one too. 
    That being sad I think with all the Betta males going around it makes it easier for women to fall into sin of checking out guys who look extremely masculine (Jason momoa, sam heughan, and Gabriel macht as examples for their masculine characters). Only because super alpha masculine men are hard to find. I could totally see men becoming conditioned to ignore the female immodesty these days because it’s soooo rampant. That being sad I don’t think it’s any easier on men. Both genders are being Put under severe attack from immodesty. 

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    Re: Insanity in the modern world - male-female close friendships
    « Reply #25 on: July 16, 2018, 10:42:21 AM »
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    When I used to go to a wives group most wives were ENCOURAGING me to watch porn with my husband, and that it would spice things up.

    Foolish women all around.
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    Re: Insanity in the modern world - male-female close friendships
    « Reply #26 on: July 16, 2018, 10:51:15 AM »
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  • So what is it exactly that makes a male an "alpha"?

    Much is said about it; but it seems that "alpha" is different for everyone. Furthermore, I notice that men who brag about being "alpha", actually behave the opposite, in reality. Their own lives do not reflect it. 
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    Re: Insanity in the modern world - male-female close friendships
    « Reply #27 on: July 16, 2018, 11:32:44 AM »
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  • For example, I assume that all here agree that the Catholic version of "alpha" male is fully represented in the Person of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

    However, if you ask an average heathen, in his ignorance and bad will, he will probably see Our Lord as an omega. (You can thank the pathetic feminization of Christianity for this misperception, though)
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    Re: Insanity in the modern world - male-female close friendships
    « Reply #28 on: July 17, 2018, 06:33:13 PM »
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  • There is no such a thing as men and women friendship  :fryingpan:
    I completely agree that men and women cannot and should not be friends except in marriage. 
    For younger people any relationship is inevitably sɛҳuąƖly charged which is inherently sinful. 
    ‘Modern’ women have been perverted by feminism and often by contraceptive hormones into accepting feminised and weak men. 

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    Re: Insanity in the modern world - male-female close friendships
    « Reply #29 on: July 17, 2018, 08:40:45 PM »
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  • And I have to ask...what kind of men/women DO co-ed wrestling?!  I've never heard of such a thing.  Well, until now.

    The whole situation is just...strange.  A very excellent example of insanity in the modern world, indeed!