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Traditional Catholic Faith => Catholic Living in the Modern World => Topic started by: Everlast22 on May 03, 2024, 01:09:05 PM

Title: Infertility rates rising
Post by: Everlast22 on May 03, 2024, 01:09:05 PM
With infertility rising, can we deduct the reason couples are having issues with fertility is because the first time potential pregnancies are later in the mom's life along with poor diet? Weight of mom is at an obvious all time high. It's never 1 THING, though. I keep hearing decline of fertility after 30 or so, but I think that's more for women who have had a child from 16-23. I believe first time pregnancies after 23 are much harder than what people say. I hear a lot about the jab and everything like that, but I think a lot of it is the food we eat, and a lot of weight gain/hormonal imbalances we put upon ourselves. This occurs slowly over time, maybe passed on to the next generation? 

I know there are couples in here that have had plenty of children after 27, I  just wonder why I'm seeing so many couples not being able to conceive. My wife and I really wonder about this, (she is pregnant now) but we concluded it's mostly older age along with diet. I don't know what to think about vaccines, etc., to be honest.

Title: Re: Infertility rates rising
Post by: 2Vermont on May 03, 2024, 01:32:14 PM
With infertility rising, can we deduct the reason couples are having issues with fertility is because the first time potential pregnancies are later in the mom's life along with poor diet? Weight of mom is at an obvious all time high. It's never 1 THING, though. I keep hearing decline of fertility after 30 or so, but I think that's more for women who have had a child from 16-23. I believe first time pregnancies after 23 are much harder than what people say. I hear a lot about the jab and everything like that, but I think a lot of it is the food we eat, and a lot of weight gain/hormonal imbalances we put upon ourselves. This occurs slowly over time, maybe passed on to the next generation?

I know there are couples in here that have had plenty of children after 27, I  just wonder why I'm seeing so many couples not being able to conceive. My wife and I really wonder about this, (she is pregnant now) but we concluded it's mostly older age along with diet. I don't know what to think about vaccines, etc., to be honest.
I think it could also be consequences of being on birth control for years as well.
Title: Re: Infertility rates rising
Post by: Everlast22 on May 03, 2024, 01:38:13 PM
I think it could also be consequences of being on birth control for years as well.
I should clarify, I don't really put "liberal" Catholics, or non Catholics in my observations. 

There are quite a few married couples  we know (married longer than 1 year) that are not able to conceive. I must assume they are open and trying, out of charity. I have no clue what's going on, but we would love our children to have little other friends to play with, haha.
Title: Re: Infertility rates rising
Post by: 2Vermont on May 03, 2024, 01:39:35 PM
I should clarify, I don't really put "liberal" Catholics, or non Catholics in my observations.

There are quite a few married couples  we know (married longer than 1 year) that are not able to conceive. I must assume they are open and trying, out of charity. I have no clue what's going on, but we would love our children to have little other friends to play with, haha.
OK, sorry. I thought you were speaking to the general population. In my case, it was age (as far as I know).
Title: Re: Infertility rates rising
Post by: FarmerWife on May 03, 2024, 02:43:33 PM
If the woman ovulates every month, she's probably fertile. You can use strips to check everyday and track your cycle. Infertility for women can include irregular, painful periods which I had when I was younger when I was diagnosed with PCOS. But when I was near my 20s, I changed my diet, and my periods became regular. And birth control is prescribed for women with PCOS as well as for acne. I was and was only on it for a few months and stopped because it felt wrong. 
Title: Re: Infertility rates rising
Post by: Thed0ctor on May 03, 2024, 02:56:00 PM
My wife it was due to a previous miscarriage. It took around 8 months to get pregnant again and that was with using the NFP Marquette method religiously to conceive. My wife also has some thyroid issues as well which we think made things harder
Title: Re: Infertility rates rising
Post by: Miseremini on May 03, 2024, 03:34:49 PM
. I hear a lot about the jab and everything like that, but I think a lot of it is the food we eat, and a lot of weight gain/hormonal imbalances we put upon ourselves.

 I don't know what to think about vaccines, etc., to be honest.
From the Canadian government website today.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/canadian-government-stats-show-surge-in-reproductive-damage-following-covid-jab-rollout/?utm_source=daily-canada-2024-05-03&utm_medium=email
Title: Re: Infertility rates rising
Post by: Nadir on May 03, 2024, 04:13:13 PM
I don't think that one year is a long time when it comes to achieving a pregnancy. Quite often there is an anxiety about the ability to conceive which doesn't augur well for the couple.

As for me I was married at 35, had no 1 at 36, no 2 at 37 and no 3 at 40. I had no problem achieving pregnancy and no problems delivering. 3 hours from wo to go with my first, with no complications.

Then... no more eggs. I guess we were just blessed.
Title: Re: Infertility rates rising
Post by: TheRealMcCoy on May 03, 2024, 04:48:11 PM
My sister had PCOS because she was fat.  She lost 50 pounds and was finally able to conceive. The doctor said estrogen is stored in body fat and when you're overweight the body can't access it and you become infertile.  This was back before people thought being overweight was normal.
Title: Re: Infertility rates rising
Post by: Nadir on May 03, 2024, 06:49:06 PM
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I don't know what to think about vaccines, etc., to be honest.
Some are worse than others but I don't believe any one will improve the quality of health.


A doctor friend (obstetrician) treated a girl of 17, who was already post menopausal as a result of the Gardasil injection. She later had several other similar cases. She published her findings and offered the paper to the Australian Medical Journal who refused it, so she took it the the BMJ and they chose to publish.

The whole point of some vaxes is to reduce fertility.

https://www.fli.org.au/what-you-should-know-about-gardasil/
Title: Re: Infertility rates rising
Post by: 2Vermont on May 03, 2024, 07:51:56 PM
Some are worse than others but I don't believe any one will improve the quality of health.


A doctor friend (obstetrician) treated a girl of 17, who was already post menopausal as a result of the Gardasil injection. She later had several other similar cases. She published her findings and offered the paper to the Australian Medical Journal who refused it, so she took it the the BMJ and they chose to publish.

The whole point of some vaxes is to reduce fertility.

https://www.fli.org.au/what-you-should-know-about-gardasil/
Oh that poor dear.  It's bad enough going through it when you're supposed to.
Title: Re: Infertility rates rising
Post by: AMDGJMJ on May 03, 2024, 08:49:06 PM
With infertility rising, can we deduct the reason couples are having issues with fertility is because the first time potential pregnancies are later in the mom's life along with poor diet? Weight of mom is at an obvious all time high. It's never 1 THING, though. I keep hearing decline of fertility after 30 or so, but I think that's more for women who have had a child from 16-23. I believe first time pregnancies after 23 are much harder than what people say. I hear a lot about the jab and everything like that, but I think a lot of it is the food we eat, and a lot of weight gain/hormonal imbalances we put upon ourselves. This occurs slowly over time, maybe passed on to the next generation?

I know there are couples in here that have had plenty of children after 27, I  just wonder why I'm seeing so many couples not being able to conceive. My wife and I really wonder about this, (she is pregnant now) but we concluded it's mostly older age along with diet. I don't know what to think about vaccines, etc., to be honest.
I have several friends who were in amazing health, who married young and who had trouble conceiving.  I also know women who married in their 30's and had no trouble getting pregnant.  So, I don't think that it is only a matter of weight and age.  

In fact, my of my friends was discussing with me recently how women who are a little more on the heavy side often find it easier to conceive rather than women who are underweight.

I know several women who have to take progesterone in order to become pregnant and some throughout their entire pregnancy.  

I also know several midwife groups that tell the women who go to them to avoid vaccines if they want to conceive.   

So, I guess there must be different factors and every situation might be a bit different. 



Title: Re: Infertility rates rising
Post by: Nadir on May 03, 2024, 09:01:20 PM
And sometimes it can be the man who has a problem and not the woman. Or that the combination is not a good one, though I have nothing at hand to substantiate such a claim. 

But for those who have a problem with fertility it is good to consult a NaProTech doctor.