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The title of this thread ("In Jail") is ENTIRELY inappropriate because it provides nothing in context, as if the author doesn't want anyone to find the topic.


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I note that the example we have of a saint is that of Saint Thomas More who, when he could no longer perform the work required by his king, resigned his post.  He did not explain the reason for the resignation as the reason would likely have been construed as treason and he would have immediately lost his head.  

This clerk should have resigned her post though she would not have been in fear of her life if she chose to explain the reason for the resignation.

Pope Benedicts encouraged these clerks to do civil disobedience.

They stood chanting outside the jail house, "Thank you, Kim; Thank you, Kim," and prayed that the defiant county clerk locked inside could hear them.

As Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis began her third day as an inmate at the Carter County Detention Center on Saturday, having chosen indefinite imprisonment over licensing gαy marriage, around 300 people gathered on the lawn outside.

"She won't bow, I promise you," Davis' husband, Joe, told the crowd. "She sends her love to each and every one of you all. And this is what she said, 'All is well. Tell them to hold their head high because I am.'"

Part revival, part political rally, a series of speakers denounced the government and the judiciary, and hailed Davis a Christian hero in a war against the godless. They waved signs that read "Kim Davis for President," ''no to sodomite perversion" and "God gives his hardest battles to his strongest soldiers."

Some traveled from states away to support of the embattled clerk, held in contempt of court by U.S. District Judge David Bunning on Thursday and sent to jail until she agrees to follow the court's order. She has pledged she never will.

News of her imprisonment rocketed around the world, igniting a furious debate over religious freedom and the place of God in government.

As the temperature topped 90 degrees in Grayson, Kentucky, Davis' supporters sweated and shouted for more than an hour.

"More fear man, they don't fear God," Matthew Trewhella, a pastor from Wisconsin, preached from the stage. "She said that she was doing this under God's authority. She is 1,000 percent correct. She is echoing what western man has said for over 1,500 years now. And that is that divine law trumps human laws."

Davis refused to issue marriage licenses for two months since the Supreme Court legalized gαy marriage across the nation. Despite a series of court orders, she continued turning couples away.

Bunning told Davis Thursday that she'd left him no choice.

The judge, appointed to the court by President George W. Bush, became a target of the crowd's rage. A man carried a sign as big as a bathtub: "Judge Bunning is an abomination," it read and pointed to a Bible passage that says, "Acquitting the guilty and condemning the innocent -- the Lord detests them both."

Local evangelist Randy Smith called on the judge to "get saved and repent from his sin." He bashed the governor, the attorney general and local officials -- all for declining to help Davis' crusade. And he asked God to see to it that the five Supreme Court justices who voted to legalize gαy marriage be unseated.

He asked Christians across the globe to spend Thursday fasting and praying for Davis, to mark "one week of unlawful tyranny." He asked them to be ready for war against religious oppression.

The couples Davis turned away for two months finally received their licenses Friday, and said they spent Saturday celebrating their lives together, in peace for the first time since the controversy erupted around them.

But on the jailhouse lawn, the rally's organizers distributed fliers that listed what Davis' supporters should do: pray for her release, write the judge and demand she be set free, send Davis postcards to jail, where she remains in a cell alone though allowed a Bible to read.

"The wicked are trying to make an example of her but God can turn it around," the flier reads. "Pray that America repents of the sin of celebrating sɛҳuąƖ perversion and imprisoning Christian dissidents."

http://news.yahoo.com/rally-support-defiant-clerk-jailed-over-marriage-licenses-200436095.html#

Kim Davis, the Kentucky clerk who was jailed last week for refusing to grant marriage licenses to same-sex couples, has been released from prison.

Davis, a clerk in Rowan County, Ky., was incarcerated Thursday for refusing to comply with several court orders to issue marriage licenses to gαy couples following the Supreme Court’s landmark ruling in June on the basis of her “religious conviction.”

Her attorney, Roger Gannam, told Yahoo News that U.S. District Judge David Bunning, who jailed Davis, ordered her release early Tuesday afternoon.

“It’s six days too late,” Gannam said, “but we’re glad to report Judge Bunning has ordered that she be immediately released from custody.”

Bunning, Gannam said, was satisfied that the marriage licenses Davis had refused to issue were subsequently granted by her deputies. But Gannam stressed his client “never changed her mind” on the issue.

Davis emerged from the Carter County Detention Center flanked by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who met with her before her release.

“God showed up in the form of an elected official: Kim Davis,” Huckabee said. “Today I was proud to stand with Kim Davis as she was released from jail. Kim Davis should have never been locked up for being a Christian and for following her conscience and the law.“

Earlier Tuesday, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said Davis should be given another government job, because those licenses “have to be issued” under the law.


“People have a right to practice their religion,” Christie said on “Fox and Friends” Tuesday morning. “Now, I’ve said what I would do with this woman is to move her to another job where this is not an objection for her. Because you have to follow the law — and the law has to be these licenses have to be issued.”

“I think we should give her an option to do another job where her religious concerns are not going to be put into the cross hairs on this. So we have to have respect for people, but the government also has to function,” Christie said, adding that fellow 2016 Republican candidates shouldn’t “play politics” with the case.

Huckabee, a former Baptist minister, planned to host a rally for Davis Thursday afternoon. Texas Sen. Ted Cruz also traveled to Kentucky Tuesday to meet with Davis.

On Sunday, Huckabee likened the Supreme Court decision to “judicial tyranny.”


“What we’ve seen here is the overreach of the judiciary,” Huckabee said on ABC’s “This Week.” “This, if allowed to stand without any congressional approval, without any kind of enabling legislation, is what [President Thomas] Jefferson warned us about. That’s judicial tyranny.”

Last week, Cruz called Davis’ jailing an “outrage.”

“For the first time, we’re seeing a Christian thrown in jail for standing up for her faith,” Cruz told Fox News’ Megyn Kelly. “I’ll tell you, I stand with Kim Davis unequivocally. I stand with her or anyone else the government is trying to persecute for standing up for their faith.”

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/huckabee-christie-cruz-weigh-in-on-controversial-128638521231.html

Quote from: TKGS

I note that the example we have of a saint is that of Saint Thomas More who, when he could no longer perform the work required by his king, resigned his post.  He did not explain the reason for the resignation as the reason would likely have been construed as treason and he would have immediately lost his head.  

This clerk should have resigned her post though she would not have been in fear of her life if she chose to explain the reason for the resignation.

The people claiming that the clerk should resign her post are completely lost.  In case Cath Info members did not notice, this is the liberal line anyways.

She is an elected official.  Kentucky alredy voted against sodomite marriage and they voted her to be the court clerk.  The people of Kentucky voted.  Just because all of a sudden some idea comes along and if you don't accept it you should just quit your job and be without employment is tyrannical.  It would be better to say if you don't go to Mass on Sunday you should quit your job.  What would be left of elected officials would be only practicing Catholics.  Force everyone who is not a practicing Catholic to resign.  In this case, all elected officials who don't agree with a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ lifestyle should resign...pretty smart.  Where do you think that is headed?????


To think that a Catholic would suggest that all county clerks and judges that do not accept a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ lifestyle as normal must resign is insane,..

I disagree.  

We live in very confusing times.  It is highly unlikely that the court will every reverse it's perverse decision even if every single county clerk in the entire U.S. refused to issue marriage licenses to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs.

Instead, this woman brought scandal upon herself and Christianity.  She became a laughing stock for her defense of traditional marriage.  Why?  Because as a Protestant she was married two or three times, divorced, and with children from each marriage.  Her defense seemed to be more showboating that sincere.

However, she could have written a resignation letter, and since she was elected, could have called the newpapers and offered her resignation and an apology to the people who elected her stating why she could no longer carry out her duties.

It is an unfortunate reality of modern times that a great many professions are not suitable to Catholics or they are at best suitable in limited circuмstances.  

And yes, I do believe there are times when people must resign from their positions because it violates their faith.  I have done it myself.  

We do not have to answer to the world, we have to answer to Christ.