Author Topic: Must All True Catholics Condemn All Errors As Decreed by the Popes/Church? (Read 2038 times)

Johannes · « **on:** November 13, 2024, 04:27:29 PM »

From:

Familiar Explanation of Christian Doctrine (Adapted for the Family and More Advanced Students in Catholic Schools and Colleges.)

By: Rev. Michael Müller, C.SS.R.
with the Approbation of the Sacred Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith
Benziger Brothers: New York, 1876
Printers to the Holy Apostolic See
Nihil Obstat:
Joseph Helmpraecht, C.SS.R.
Baltimore, MD., 24 Sept., 1874
Imprimatur:
J. Roosevelt Bayley
Archiep. Baltimorensis
Baltimore, 24 Sept., 1874

(Page 40)

Q. When the Pope, in accordance with the duty of his apostolic ministry and his supreme apostolic authority, proceeds, in briefs, encyclical letters, consistorial allocutions, and other apostolic letters, to declare certain truths, to reprobate perverse doctrines, and condemn certain errors, must such declarations of truth, and condemnations of error, be considered as infallible, and as binding in conscience, and requiring our firm interior assent, although they do not express an anathema on those who disagree?

A. Such declarations of truth and condemnations of error are infallible, or ex cathedra acts of the Pope, and, therefore are binding in conscience, and requiring our firm interior assent; to refuse which would be for us a mortal sin, since such a refusal would be a virtual denial of the dogma of infallibility, and we should be heretics were we conscious of such a denial. St. Alphonsus Liguori. Theol. Mor., Lib I., 104.

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AUGUSTINE. (Quæst. in Matt. q. 12.) " When a man begins to be spiritual, discerning between things, then he begins to see errors; for he judges concerning whatsoever he hears or reads, whether it departs from the rule of truth; but until he is perfected in the same spiritual things, he might be disturbed at so many false heresies having existed under the Christian name..."

I tried to touch on this a bit yesterday. One could use any example of previously condemned error that they like, but when the bishops of the world publicly put their name on docuмents that teach the very opposite of what has previously been condemned by a true pope (let alone 4), in that very act they manifested their heresy, and it became a known fact. At least that is how I see it. Is it not at least conceivable that what the world actually saw with Vatican II was just the public manifestation of an already doctrinally bankrupt episcopacy that was already made up of 99.99% materially or occult heretics?

The indefectibility of the Church seems to be the more "mysterious" dogma to me. We know the "gates of hell" (heresies) cannot prevail, but we were never told explicitly just how many priests/bishops the Church would need to technically survive.

For me personally, as I have been trying to determine both my own orthodoxy and that of other purported Catholics, family, friends, priests, etc. - especially coming from a background raised in the N.O. - it is easier for me to see what we disagree about rather than what we agree about. A sad but true effect of the mass apostasy of these times.

Example: Do you believe Religious Liberty/Freedom as taught by Vatican II is a condemned error?
Example: Do you believe the Church can break from its Traditional worship and sacramental rites?
Example: Do you believe someone can be saved outside the Catholic Church?
etc.

IMO there many Catholics (and I mean that in the sense of "Traditional" Catholics) who are not aware they must also condemn all that the Church condemns. They tend to focus 90-100% on the positive doctrines that are more pleasing to learn and avoid the condemnations because either they don't know they should actually study the condemnations, or because these things are construed as negative, reject things, shunning, etc. All of that does not sit well with a mind/soul imbued with a tolerant and modernist spirit. To that spirit it feels like one is practicing an anti-Gospel by "judging". Anyone who has been exposed at all to modern culture has picked up this spirit to some degree.

In the 4 years I have been going to SSPX chapels for sacraments, I have only heard them speak about heresies/errors twice and it was brief and not specific in anyway. This led me to keep digging and I stumbling on CathInfo about 6 months ago and have been reading old threads and following along for about 6 months or so, it has been very interesting! Who spoke the first heresy? "Through the devil, sin and death entered the world". From that moment the "game" down here has been afoot - the greatest story of all time - the ongoing battle between truth and error - God and His Truth be praised forever!

How often does your chapel priest preach against the heresies?

rosarytrad · « **Reply #1 on:** November 13, 2024, 05:18:14 PM »

Two thumbs up on Fr. Muller. He was a great Priest. I always enjoy reading his work.

I’ll answer your closing question and come back later when I can say something about the rest of your post.
My priest speaks/preaches against heresy quite often. He is former SSPX but one of the “old guard,” so to speak. He recommended to us during a sermon not that long ago to read Pope Pius XI’s encyclical Mortalium Animos. I had heard of it but had not read it at that time. As a traditional Catholic it was astonishing to read the encyclical in light of Vatican 2. More priests should do this, and encourage Catholics to READ the treasures we have.

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Michelle · « **Reply #2 on:** November 14, 2024, 07:51:23 PM »

Johannes,

Thanks be to our Lord and our Lady for leading you out of the Novus Ordo. I was also raised in it.
This actually enabled me to see, clearly, that they are not the same religion in doctrine and worship.
Are you familiar with the history of Pope Leo Xlll and why he composed the St. Michael prayer after he heard a discussion from the tabernacle between our Lord and Satan? Our Lord gave him more time and power to destroy the Catholic Church.
Our Lady came to Fatima in 1917 and told us Russia would spread her errors, raising up wars and persecutions against the Church. According to American communist, Bella Dodd, she helped place 1200 communist into the seminaries in the 1930's, and she wasn't the only one.
And also, According to the Masonic docuмent, The Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita, they sent their members into the Catholic parishes under the guise of holy and pious Catholics to slowly corrupt the faithful.
You probably already know all this, so sorry for my rambling, but my point is, the enemies of our Lord and His truth are in full control of the hierarchy and the Church structures. They have implemented the antichrist religion with a veneer of Catholicism.
Many traditional Catholics do not understand how important it is to know the true catechism and study the doctrines. Many priests have stopped condemning errors and heresies. They preach nice sermons but don't want to stir the pot or make waves. It's as though, we are NOT in a war or a battle for the truth. We don't fight for our Lord, who is the truth. I pray hard for strong holy men to arouse us from our slumber and lethargy and as Our Lady of LaSalette said "fight my children, you few who can see.

Author Topic: Must All True Catholics Condemn All Errors As Decreed by the Popes/Church? (Read 2038 times)

Johannes

Must All True Catholics Condemn All Errors As Decreed by the Popes/Church?

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Michelle

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