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Online Maria Dolorosa

Re: I want daughters, I want sons, how many good girls? There are none.
« Reply #40 on: Today at 03:23:10 PM »
Quote from: OSanctissimus on Today at 11:03:00 AM
The man is the head of the house.  This means that ultimately everything - yes, even the education of his children -- is his responsibility.  The wife *helps* him towards that end.

She is not the primary educator.  The man is -- she is acting on his behalf as his wife - the primary educator.  The man teaches the woman and by extension, their children.

Stop being so pessimistic about marriage!  People present sometimes very pessimistically, and then wonder why they don't have favorable outcomes.
You misunderstood me. Of course, the authority of the mother to teach her children comes from God, and through the husband. I am basing what I have said on traditional Catholic reading.

The Christian Mother by Rev. W. Cramer, Imprimatur 1880 
https://archive.org/details/TheChristianMother/page/n35/mode/2up?q=primary

“Again, the Christian mother is the servant of the Church with regard to her children. If she fulfils her duties faithfully, blessings will go out from her to the child, and to society at large. This is the reason why the Church takes all possible care to have the mother educated in a truly Christian manner. Since God Himself has given to the mother so high and important a vocation, He wished also to make her fit to discharge its duties perfectly. This is the reason why He has endowed females with a certain natural disposition for piety and for the practice of all those virtues which are essential to the right treatment and education of tender children.” — P. 21

"Conscious that the first efforts and noblest part of the child's being belong to God, and that God has confided the child to her, to educate it for Him, the mother endeavours to incline its heart and mind early towards Him and heavenly things by teaching and instruction." — P. 70

Motherhood; or, Conferences for Our Lady's and St. Philip's Girls, Imprimatur 1885, Convent of the Maternal Heart of Mary
https://archive.org/details/motherhoodorcon00mothgoog/page/n7/mode/1up

“The woman, as a rule, leads a quieter life than the man, and though indeed she has many harassing cares in her domestic life, and in the bringing up of her children, she is not so mixed up with the world as the man; he is more distracted by business and worldly affairs, and thus is not so capable of thinking of spiritual things, and applying his mind to God, as she is in her quiet, peaceful domestic life. He will probably see and feel that she is greatly his Superior in all that concerns a spiritual and a Christian life; he will respect her for it, and great will be her power with him for good, if she acts with prudence and zeal, always remembering that the good will be done by silent influence, gentle manners, and example, more than by words.” — P. 28-29

“We have already said that from earliest infancy the mother must commence to teach her children to know Jesus, and how much He loves them. Their first knowledge of God must come from the mother, this is evident; but, besides this, as they grow up many are the holy thoughts it is the duty of the mother to impart to them.” Conference XIV, p. 117

My giving a warning about what can happen in courtship is not pessimistic. Evil can only be overcome by first recognizing it, and knowing the temptations and pitfalls that can come with courtship, is vital for choosing the right person, and having a successful marriage.
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Offline Michaelknoxville

Re: I want daughters, I want sons, how many good girls? There are none.
« Reply #41 on: Today at 07:15:44 PM »
Quote from: MaterDominici on March 05, 2026, 10:15:46 PM
You talk like you're at least 24, but your profile says you're 17. How about worry more about finishing high school and less about who you're going to marry? Maybe you're in the top .1% of young people on practical skills, maturity, and employment, but it's not crazy to presume your focus should be elsewhere. Your generation isn't known for rapid advancements in personal maturity and independence, but feel free to prove me wrong.
17 is 2 years too old to start thinking about a future wife. Men in the past had the skills to build and maintain a home at that age and were already on child one or two at that stage. We need to stop thinking of 17 as the age of a child. This is why his generation and slightly older have remained children into their 30s. It’s been systematically beaten into us to conform to the world’s standards. How are those college degrees working out for the younger generations on average lately? What I wish what was pushed on me at that age was the ability to settle. The ability to accept the mundane life of a 9-5 supporting a family with a chance to retire at 60. This standard is the gold standard for sure and I wish I didn’t snub stability in my youth. The constant pursuit of holding off so you can do better is a lie. Give me a good young girl and a townie job if I had it to do all over again for sure. I blew that exact opportunity when I was younger to pursue life in the big city and although I was mildly successful it’s destroyed me in ways I need to write a book to explain. 
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Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: I want daughters, I want sons, how many good girls? There are none.
« Reply #42 on: Today at 07:29:34 PM »
Quote from: Michaelknoxville on Today at 07:15:44 PM
17 is 2 years too old to start thinking about a future wife. Men in the past had the skills to build and maintain a home at that age and were already on child one or two at that stage. We need to stop thinking of 17 as the age of a child. This is why his generation and slightly older have remained children into their 30s. It’s been systematically beaten into us to conform to the world’s standards. How are those college degrees working out for the younger generations on average lately? What I wish what was pushed on me at that age was the ability to settle. The ability to accept the mundane life of a 9-5 supporting a family with a chance to retire at 60. This standard is the gold standard for sure and I wish I didn’t snub stability in my youth. The constant pursuit of holding off so you can do better is a lie. Give me a good young girl and a townie job if I had it to do all over again for sure. I blew that exact opportunity when I was younger to pursue life in the big city and although I was mildly successful it’s destroyed me in ways I need to write a book to explain.
Most 9-5 jobs can't provide one a single income in the current economy. So that's that.
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Online alancarmine

Re: I want daughters, I want sons, how many good girls? There are none.
« Reply #43 on: Today at 09:38:14 PM »
Quote from: Michaelknoxville on Today at 07:15:44 PM
17 is 2 years too old to start thinking about a future wife. Men in the past had the skills to build and maintain a home at that age and were already on child one or two at that stage. We need to stop thinking of 17 as the age of a child. 
Absolutely. As well as girls, they are allowed to treat themselves as children by bereft society up until they have their own kids. Childlike behavior, acting like the "sister" or "girlfriend" of their kids, too commonly seen among new gen 29-year-old first time mothers who raise their children to be complete monsters.

The generation before mine, millenials are absolutely the worst. My generation and Alpha are the "subdued" generation. Cannot complete a day without literal or metaphorical anesthetic. From 21 to as young as 11. I am a major outlier in all senses and I need not only a woman but friends who are too. Who at least share the faith but are incredibly strong and capable aswell. 

If I were born when the world was economically prosperous, when things were propped up to look fair, I would've become a musician. God knows this and thank God he birthed me at the right time. I may have been "without need" in my own vainglorious mind of the one true faith if I wasn't born in a time of apparent ruin. I have always been a star shooter. Which is why I want to become the best father of all time.

Nobody shares this drive with me. I will find who does, eventually, if the Lord wills it.
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Online alancarmine

Re: I want daughters, I want sons, how many good girls? There are none.
« Reply #44 on: Today at 09:55:17 PM »
Quote from: alancarmine on March 07, 2026, 05:01:45 PM
Since you insist I explain myself, I have no problem with that.

I live on my own. I am completely responsible over myself. I have no financial support from anybody except my employers and I am more than happy with that. On a base level I think I am already exceptional without having to go into further detail. So, I want more for my life. I can have room for more, especially since I've gone through enough trouble to end up here, this is not an easy site to find on your own. Your head is in the clouds.
No response to this :laugh1:
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