Author Topic: I am Out of Work and Need to get a job Soon. I do not Want to Compromise (Read 6055 times)

Truth is Eternal · « **on:** November 06, 2014, 04:48:43 PM »

I want a real job, but, I am finding many jobs very unrealistic in this economic pyramid scheme. What are some types of jobs which are at least acceptable for Catholics.

Very Uncomfortable With Situation. I wish I knew my vocation.

poche · « **Reply #1 on:** November 07, 2014, 01:33:16 AM »

What kind of jobs have you been offered?

ggreg · « **Reply #2 on:** November 07, 2014, 04:53:21 AM »

What are some of the jobs you consider "unrealistic", which you might have a realistic chance of landing?

For many unemployed people the only "realism" they are interested in is the paycheck hitting their bank account.

You are competing with them in the job market.

It is pointless your worrying about the "economic pyramid", since right now you are at the bottom of it anyway. Ground level, so to speak. You have nothing to lose by climbing the first couple of levels.

When you've got nothing, you've got nothing to lose.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 07, 2014, 09:47:34 AM »

I pray for your success in finding a new Job.

In my case, I been out of work since 12/31/2008.

OHCA · « **Reply #4 on:** November 08, 2014, 06:48:00 AM »

What makes the jobs that you have in mind "unrealistic?"

Truth is Eternal · « **Reply #5 on:** November 08, 2014, 09:28:54 AM »

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What makes the jobs that you have in mind "unrealistic?"

A couple of the Jobs I am seeing are telemarketing jobs where you are convincing people to buy things they can't afford and don't need.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #6 on:** November 08, 2014, 09:36:44 AM »

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What makes the jobs that you have in mind "unrealistic?"

A couple of the Jobs I am seeing are telemarketing jobs where you are convincing people to buy things they can't afford and don't need.

Inbound or outbound?

I'd be careful assuming that people can't afford or don't need something.

I mean, you don't really NEED a job, do you?

Frances · « **Reply #7 on:** November 08, 2014, 10:01:21 AM »

:dancing-banana:
I've never gotten so much as a "thank you but not today" reply from an internet recruiter. Any job I've ever held has been gotten as a result of in-person contact, initiated by me. That includes the jobs I currently hold. Note, jobS, plural. If, by "compromise," you refer to participation in immorality or low-pay, that is the price. Better to show up poor, exhausted, and early for your Particular Judgment, but with a clear conscience than103, having left a cozy nest-egg to your family, but without Sanctifying Grace.
Very few can "have it all." Read the Gospels and Lives of the Saints.
Go ahead and take those jobs stocking shelves, flipping burgers, driving a delivery truck, rounding up shopping carts, cashiering, pushing broom. It beats sitting around worrying.
If your family and friends reject you for it, they aren't worthy of you. Not your problem if you've done your best.

Marlelar · « **Reply #8 on:** November 08, 2014, 01:04:31 PM »

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I want a real job, but, I am finding many jobs very unrealistic in this economic pyramid scheme. What are some types of jobs which are at least acceptable for Catholics.

Very Uncomfortable With Situation. I wish I knew my vocation.

What are you qualified to do? What skills do you have? If you don't have anything marketable then get some training. Call your local electrician's union office and find out about training. The local in Tucson, AZ was actually PAYING while training; free education and you got paid to boot! And they can't find enough stable young men to take them up on their offer! Most of them last a week to a month and then start coming in late and eventually just stop showing up. Or show up drunk or high. It might be the same story for machinists, plumbers, etc.

A healthy young man should not sit behind a workstation with ear buds in all day.

Marsha

Matthew · « **Reply #9 on:** November 08, 2014, 02:11:24 PM »

I'm re-posting this here, since it has to do with this thread as well.

I posted this originally in the "Kim Kardashian App makes 700,000 a day" thread.

I must reluctantly point out THIS is one of the reasons why Trad men are not as "successful" or wealthy as those who are not Trad and/or Catholic.

I'm not dismissing everything ggreg has said on this topic, as he does make some good points (particularly about motivation, ambition, and hard work). HOWEVER...

Trads are not (or at least they are taught not to be, and/or they strive not to be)

* cynical
* superficial
* man-children
* purveyors of crap
* lacking all sense of beauty or purpose

They are taught that God created them for a reason. They have some sense of nobility, truth, and beauty. They are raised with a better sense of beauty (as opposed to commercial crap), truth (as opposed to falsehood, unknowable truth, and confusion), etc.

They are also taught the Golden Rule from the earliest age, as well as it's corollary: don't do to others what you wouldn't want someone doing to you. So becoming a middle-man in the loan industry? Doesn't seem fair, that the end-user should have to support such a person who does basically nothing productive. Usury? That seems very unfair to the person paying the interest. So Trads instinctively avoid certain fields that seem unjust or bad.

You often see (secular) Jєωs becoming very successful. They are completely worldly; even their religion is about this world. They jump on every pop culture bandwagon; getting rich by selling Halloween costumes, SEO, porn, or working in the entertainment/movie industry. They're not lacking in natural talents, either. They have no hang-ups with morality, corrupting others, etc. They are 100% for The World, so they present an un-divided front. They also don't have big families to take care of either. They have no qualms about doing something "silly" or useless for a living -- as long as it makes a good buck.

I think there is something inside Trads that keeps them from diving into this. Either they know it's silly and they refrain, even if perhaps they COULD make a living from it. It's like they keep the big picture in mind, or a common-sense view of the world in mind, or something along those lines.

Feel free to discuss, but I think I'm on to something here.

I just know that no Trads I know -- including all the many Trads into computers, Internet, and programming -- would make a game about Kim Kardashian in the first place, even if we intellectually know that people dine on that kind of trash on a regular basis and it might do well.

Matthew · « **Reply #10 on:** November 08, 2014, 02:13:03 PM »

As someone pointed out, even something as "innocent" as bothering people on the phone to buy more material things they don't really want/need is considered "bad" even if not outright sinful. So it's AT LEAST considered a less-than-worthwhile way to spend one's life.

Again, Catholics have enough philosophy and decency in them to realize that we were put here for a reason, and many jobs are just running around a hamster wheel. Some are positively predatory on the poor and unwary -- or those who can't say "no".

ggreg · « **Reply #11 on:** November 08, 2014, 02:23:14 PM »

So sell something they do need.

Better accounting software, for example, something that makes life easier or lets them run a business with less overhead.

There are millions of companies that sell stuff people want.

Truth is Eternal · « **Reply #12 on:** November 08, 2014, 04:09:15 PM »

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I want a real job, but, I am finding many jobs very unrealistic in this economic pyramid scheme. What are some types of jobs which are at least acceptable for Catholics.

Very Uncomfortable With Situation. I wish I knew my vocation.

What are you qualified to do? What skills do you have? If you don't have anything marketable then get some training. Call your local electrician's union office and find out about training. The local in Tucson, AZ was actually PAYING while training; free education and you got paid to boot! And they can't find enough stable young men to take them up on their offer! Most of them last a week to a month and then start coming in late and eventually just stop showing up. Or show up drunk or high. It might be the same story for machinists, plumbers, etc.

A healthy young man should not sit behind a workstation with ear buds in all day.

Marsha

I worked in a printing facility in the production area for 2 1/2 years and I disliked the work as it was too fast for me and the repetitive motion was hard on my body. Before working out in the production area, I worked in the office as an office assistant for over 15 years.

I don't know what to do because my personality shows I need a job which is creative and analytical. I might like to work in a place where I have a mix of office work manufacturing work.

Miseremini · « **Reply #13 on:** November 08, 2014, 04:48:24 PM »

Here's a true story that might help.

Many years ago a man named Danny Thomas (married with 2 kids) was out of work and destitute. He had tried everything to find work to support his family.

Finally in desperation he prayed to St. Jude to get him a job that God approved of and if he did he promised to do something in the saint's honour.

He got a job as a movie actor.

He built St. Jude's Hospital for Children in the U.S. where no child is ever turned away for monetary reasons.

OHCA · « **Reply #14 on:** November 08, 2014, 09:41:15 PM »

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I want a real job, but, I am finding many jobs very unrealistic in this economic pyramid scheme. What are some types of jobs which are at least acceptable for Catholics.

Very Uncomfortable With Situation. I wish I knew my vocation.

What are you qualified to do? What skills do you have? If you don't have anything marketable then get some training. Call your local electrician's union office and find out about training. The local in Tucson, AZ was actually PAYING while training; free education and you got paid to boot! And they can't find enough stable young men to take them up on their offer! Most of them last a week to a month and then start coming in late and eventually just stop showing up. Or show up drunk or high. It might be the same story for machinists, plumbers, etc.

A healthy young man should not sit behind a workstation with ear buds in all day.

Marsha

I worked in a printing facility in the production area for 2 1/2 years and I disliked the work as it was too fast for me and the repetitive motion was hard on my body. Before working out in the production area, I worked in the office as an office assistant for over 15 years.

I don't know what to do because my personality shows I need a job which is creative and analytical. I might like to work in a place where I have a mix of office work manufacturing work.

This post is starting to shed light on what I've suspected throughout this thread. You're seeking excuses not to work. If you're of an age to have already been in the workforce 17+ years, who cares what kind of job "my personality shows I need."

If you're "creative and analytical," then why aren't you entrepreneuring something yourself instead of daydreaming about some office/manufacturing position falling into your lap.

When Matthew said he was re-stating something in this thread, I had hoped that he was re-stating his boy-man thread from several months ago. I think you're feeling guilty about shirking work and started this thread seeking to legitimize your hyper-scrupulous excuses for not working.