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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: I am not Traditional Catholic anymore
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2024, 08:58:04 AM »
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  • I don't think it is a sin as the Church permits it ...

    The Conciliar Church is not the Catholic Church, and the sooner you come to realize this, the less confused you'll be.  Enemies of the Church (Communists, Masons, and Jews) have spent hundreds of years infiltrating the Church, and this Novus Ordo is the culmination of their efforts, and everything they've done is with the aim of undermining and destroying (if they could) the Catholic Church, which has almost from the very beginning forbidden laymen from handling the Blessed Sacrament except in grave necessity, for the reasons stated above.

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    Re: I am not Traditional Catholic anymore
    « Reply #16 on: February 24, 2024, 09:00:29 AM »
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  • This is the office of the priest alone; what you are doing is a sacrilege.  You are not a priest; you need to stop.

    Well, except objectively there's probably 1% chance that what he's handling is actually the Blessed Sacrament (validly consecrated).  He's just playing with a wafer of bread kindof like a child playing Mass at home (like I and many others used to do).  Only problem is that he THINKS it's real, so, yes, subjectively he's committing sacrilege.


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    Re: I am not Traditional Catholic anymore
    « Reply #17 on: February 24, 2024, 09:01:17 AM »
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  • The Conciliar Church is not the Catholic Church, and the sooner you come to realize this, the less confused you'll be.  Enemies of the Church (Communists, Masons, and Jews) have spent hundreds of years infiltrating the Church, and this Novus Ordo is the culmination of their efforts, and everything they've done is with the aim of undermining and destroying (if they could) the Catholic Church, which has almost from the very beginning forbidden laymen from handling the Blessed Sacrament except in grave necessity, for the reasons stated above.

    This is the heart of the problem with Conciliarists like Ivan.

    They don't believe in the "conspiracy" of the enemies of God taking over the Church -- even when the evidence that such a conspiracy HAPPENED and was CARRIED OUT SUCCESSFULLY is mountain-high and right in front of our faces.
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    Re: I am not Traditional Catholic anymore
    « Reply #19 on: February 24, 2024, 09:11:05 AM »
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  • We should have the attitude of fear and trembling before God, and that requires only consecrated vessels and consecrated hands to touch the Blessed Sacrament ... again, unless there's some proportionately grave reason to make an exception.  Communion in the Hand is yet another deliberate Novus Ordo program to de-sacralize everything that Catholics once held to be sacred, and thereby to destroy and undermine faith, and to derogate from the reverence we owe to God.

    And again, I'm almost speechless at such willful ignorance as shown by the OP. I don't know where to begin! Because he acts as if the evidence for the destructiveness of the Novus Ordo (and all that is connected with it) isn't all around us! I'm flummoxed and flabbergasted.

    Are we playing make-believe now, or what? Do we not have 54 years of history, historical data, statistics, to go on? Can't we look at what Communion in the Hand (and the whole Novus Ordo milieu) DID, PAST TENSE to the majority of Catholics?

    Just go into ANY Conciliar Church and look around at the "Catholics" who you find. Very few young people, very few MEN. At least real men. There are some whipped, "tamed", beta husbands, sure. How many know their Faith? More importantly, how many LIVE their Faith? How many of these Novus Catholic men show any evidence of their Catholic Faith to co-workers and acquaintances? I would guess very few. I would bet that in most cases, these men live, talk, and behave like everyone else.

    How many couples don't use artificial birth control? How many willfully root for and vote for the Democratic party, which you have to admit has a few sins on them that the "almost as bad" Republicans don't have. Pro-abortion, euthanasia, anti-school choice, Communism, Climate change (basically Communism), liberalism, stoking racial division, hedonism, LGBTQ, taking from the people and giving to those who won't work, etc. I don't want to get on a tangent about America's messed up 2-party political system. But suffice to say any religion that has its flock voting for the likes of Obama, Bill/Hillary Clinton, Biden, or Peℓσѕι is a messed-up devil's religion! I'm not talking about "hold your nose, vote for Trump" voting. These people aren't holding their nose. It's pathetic that when I tell people I'm "Catholic", they assume I vote Democrat. What the actual F? Um... abortion? Wouldn't that one point RULE OUT voting for that whole party?
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    Re: I am not Traditional Catholic anymore
    « Reply #20 on: February 24, 2024, 09:19:01 AM »
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  • Idiots like the OP wouldn't be as idiotic if we were having this debate in the 1970s, before the fruits of the Novus Ordo were manifest for all to see. Then we could have our debate about "what evil effects could come from this".

    But come on! Are you blind and stupid? The facts are there for anyone to look up. You can look up ANY statistic related to the practice of religion and the Catholic Faith, and see what the Novus Ordo has done for us. You can walk into any parish church today and see for yourself. Don't trust me or random people on the Internet -- check it out for yourself! Socialize with the parishioners after Mass. See how many children are born to each family, compared to the average (among non-believers, protestants, etc.). See what the flock believes in these days. You'll see the damage first-hand.

    The fact is, +ABL and other visionary wise men foresaw what would happen as a result of Communion in the Hand and other Vatican II changes -- and history has vindicated them as 100% correct. They were practically prophets.
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    Re: I am not Traditional Catholic anymore
    « Reply #21 on: February 24, 2024, 12:03:47 PM »
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  • I am not a troll. I do that occasionally as I am scrupulous but the priest told me not to.
    He told me to quickly check once and if there are no visible sacred particles, not to worry, and move on.
    Not exactly being obedient to your superiors then are you?