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Offline TxTrad

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They did the pot luck instead of gifts.  The were in circuмstances where they did not need household items.
I've started a "hope chest" (that's what it used to be called) for my youngest daughter, collecting dishes, etc. for her, so they will be available when she starts a household of her own.
Now that's an idea...


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When you're looking for a dowry from your in-laws
I never said I would advise anyone to get/force a prenup nor advise them to expect a dowry.  The days of a dowry are gone mainly because our catholic culture (what little America had) is dead.  Until catholicism returns (which it will, eventually), a dowry is never expected. 

I don’t know how a prenup would work, I’m mainly interested in the theory and anti-feminism.  I would advise a man interested in dating to at least bring the topic up to see the reaction.  As the topic here has shown, there’s a lot of closet feminists out there, masquerading as Trads!  Everyone needs to get their mindset in order and purge modernism!  If one marries a spouse with a clear thinking, catholic mind, that’s worth all the money in the world.  But it takes some digging and controversial topics to find that out. 


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We did a wedding much like this for our second daughter.  We even did the meal as a pot luck, so we weren't providing all the food.  Everyone had a wonderful time.
We don't have "pot luck" where I come from, we have "bring a plate". and that's what we did too. Still people brought gifts and everyone had a wonderful time. I couldn't bear the thought of wasting so much money on one day. This was how many people did it, say, 80 years back. It's got completely out of hand. 
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I can see why people are reacting harshly to Croix de fer, and he can come across rather harshly. That being said the accusations should stop against him. It just makes the whole thing childish. You all have to admit his views, and points have stirred quite a bit of thought provoking discussions. I’ve spent the better part of the last two days talking to my husband about his opinion, and what he thought of us. It’s opening doors for us.
I guess you missed this:
Croix de Fer has been banned
 Croix de Fer called someone "brothel tenant", "whore", "stalker", "cow", and many other foul names here on this fine Catholic forum. He's just not worth it.

Croix de Fer jumped the shark, and that's all there is to it. He used to have about 100 downvotes or less (vs. 2000 upvotes) -- and that was last month! But now he has more downvotes than upvotes! If that isn't "jumping the shark", I don't know what is. What happened to the guy? Pray for him.
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Pope Leo XIII re-affirming the teachings of St. Paul:

From his encyclical Arcanus Divinae:


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11. Secondly, the mutual duties of husband and wife have been defined, and their several rights accurately established. They are bound, namely, to have such feelings for one another as to cherish always very great mutual love, to be ever faithful to their marriage vow, and to give one another an unfailing and unselfish help. The husband is the chief of the family and the head of the wife. The woman, because she is flesh of his flesh, and bone of his bone, must be subject to her husband and obey him; not, indeed, as a servant, but as a companion, so that her obedience shall be wanting in neither honor nor dignity. Since the husband represents Christ, and since the wife represents the Church, let there always be, both in him who commands and in her who obeys, a heaven-born love guiding both in their respective duties. For “the husband is the head of the wife; as Christ is the head of the Church…Therefore, as the Church is subject to Christ, so also let wives be to their husbands in all things.”


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What’s your point?  

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What’s your point?  
I think he agreed with the OP.
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  • You're asking the wrong question. You're trying to shape reality to fit skewed perceptions of Catholics, and then base questions off of it.

    If you want evidence, simply Google search "MGTOW" or related subjects, and you'll see the exponential numbers of men who aren't MGTOW, per se, themselves, but they still strongly support prenups and avoiding marriage licenses. They're not MGTOW because they still carefully plan on getting married. Also, in states with common law "marriages", they naturally insist on prenups to protect them.

    The numbers of Catholics in such an awakening doesn't matter. What matters is the reality of the epidemic of "divorces" sought by women, and the courts favoring the women despite their reason or lack of reason for the "divorce". The women use the courts to steal what the man owns and built his entire life. What does matter is Catholics need to take notice. Observe, orient, decide & act.

    Your fallacy is thinking trad Catholics are too righteous to succuмb to this epidemic, simply because they're trads. Trads are every bit as human as any other person, and they're "divorcing" each other and wrecking their own families. too. You even mentioned an example of some harlot who "divorced" her husband, left the Faith, all after having 10 kids with him, and getting the courts to make him pay for supporting the children while she's "married" to another man. You think it will stop there? You still maintain that trads as a whole are impervious to it. There was once a time when the Church was living Holy Tradition, but Vatican II happened. If Vatican II can happen to the Bride of Christ, then trad Catholic women can be infected with the world, thus turn on her husband and try to take everything he built and earned. Didn't Newchurch, through Vatican II, take most, if not all, of true Church's property and wealth? Yes, it did. Individual women are more easily corrupted than the Church. So why shouldn't a man get a prenup and avoid a marriage license to protect himself?
    "I'm running things now, and I'll do everything it takes to destroy the enemies of God. Now, you join me, and I promise you, you'll never have to worry about whether you're doing the right thing or the wrong thing, because we will do the only thing."
    ~ Joseph Croix de Fer


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    Lord have mercy.