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Offline jvk

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Re: Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himsel
« Reply #105 on: July 03, 2018, 07:09:07 AM »
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    • Quote from: Croix de Fer on July 03, 2018, 06:47:25 AM
    It is of the creeping feminist spirit to get technical and litigious-like on how money and other assets are distributed in the household.

    The husband decides the money matters. It's simple. Leave it alone.
    Yes, dear.



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    Offline TxTrad

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    Re: Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himsel
    « Reply #106 on: July 03, 2018, 07:44:48 AM »
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    • Quote from: jvk on July 03, 2018, 07:09:07 AM
    Yes, dear.
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    Teens of his caliber don't deserve that much respect, even tongue in cheek.
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    Re: Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himsel
    « Reply #107 on: July 03, 2018, 10:45:07 AM »
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    • Quote from: Croix de Fer on July 03, 2018, 08:13:09 AM
    Now, you're sizing up teenage boys after you've stalked me for weeks. You have no intention on changing, despite admitting you need help.
    No, son.
    Taking people's words out of context will only mess you up further. 
    We all need help, you included.
    Pray for it and He will answer your prayers if you are of good will.
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    Offline Meg

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    Re: Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himsel
    « Reply #108 on: July 03, 2018, 12:16:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: Croix de Fer on July 03, 2018, 10:53:57 AM
    You've stalked me for weeks, and you've projected your attraction to teenage males.

    Don't make light of your guilt by lumping everyone into the "help needed" category.

    CDF,

    Since you are a teen, you may still be living in your parents household. If so, are your parents aware of exactly what you are writing here?
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    Re: Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himsel
    « Reply #109 on: July 03, 2018, 12:27:00 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on July 03, 2018, 12:16:13 PM
    CDF,

    Since you are a teen, you may still be living in your parents household. If so, are your parents aware of exactly what you are writing here?

    Meg, you haven't been reading the threads, or you lack reading comprehension, or you naively take people's comments about me at face value.

    Either way, you've arrived at a wrong analysis.

    This is a disturbing trend of many...
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    Offline Meg

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    « Reply #110 on: July 03, 2018, 12:39:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: Croix de Fer on July 03, 2018, 12:27:00 PM
    Meg, you haven't been reading the threads, or you lack reading comprehension, or you naively take people's comments about me at face value.

    Either way, you've arrived at a wrong analysis.

    This is a disturbing trend of many...

    I haven't read the entire thread or threads, that's true. But the question still stands. If you have addressed the questions previously, then please let me know where you have already done so. Until then, I'll wait for you to answer the questions. Mainly, are your parents aware of exactly what you are writing here? There shouldn't be any reason not to answer honestly.
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himsel
    « Reply #111 on: July 03, 2018, 12:47:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: MaterDominici on July 03, 2018, 12:59:12 AM
    This isn't a given. My parents parted ways without any kind of fighting about who gets what. They decided between themselves how things would be divided and the court only signed off on their agreement. I don't know who decided how much child support would be, but you're not going to get away from child support no matter what you do.
    There is also the issue that a Catholic man would not want or expect to "get out of" the responsibility (before God) of supporting his children.
    Now he might want to support them under his own roof, rather than paying his wife (and some strange man) to start a entire 2nd household to accomplish this task, but I digress.
    On some worldly, non-Catholic forums full of anti-feminists and such, some of the men talk as if they would love to get out of paying any child support whatsoever -- for their own children! That is too much.
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    « Reply #112 on: July 03, 2018, 12:50:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on July 03, 2018, 12:39:23 PM
    I haven't read the entire thread or threads, that's true. But the question still stands. If you have addressed the questions previously, then please let me know where you have already done so. Until then, I'll wait for you to answer the questions. Mainly, are your parents aware of exactly what you are writing here? There shouldn't be any reason not to answer honestly.


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    Re: Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himsel
    « Reply #113 on: July 03, 2018, 01:00:17 PM »
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    • Meg, act like an adult and read the threads before you post.  Don’t be like a child who wanders into a movie theater and has to ask “What’s playing?”
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    « Reply #114 on: July 03, 2018, 01:29:37 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on July 03, 2018, 12:39:23 PM
    I haven't read the entire thread or threads, that's true. But the question still stands. If you have addressed the questions previously, then please let me know where you have already done so. Until then, I'll wait for you to answer the questions. Mainly, are your parents aware of exactly what you are writing here? There shouldn't be any reason not to answer honestly.
    Some people have been claiming that Croix de Fer is a teenager as a way to insult him.  I find it highly unlikely that their claim is true.  According to his forum profile, he registered in 2011.  Unless he were 12 years old or younger at that time, he would not be a teenager now.

    There is no reason that he should have to respond to absurd accusations and interrogations and no reason to assume that he is actually under his parents' authority.
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    « Reply #115 on: July 03, 2018, 01:37:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jaynek on July 03, 2018, 01:29:37 PM
    Some people have been claiming that Croix de Fer is a teenager as a way to insult him.  I find it highly unlikely that their claim is true.  According to his forum profile, he registered in 2011.  Unless he were 12 years old or younger at that time, he would not be a teenager now.

    There is no reason that he should have to respond to absurd accusations and interrogations and no reason to assume that he is actually under his parents authority.

    He didn't deny that he is under his parents authority. But if he is, his parents are not doing a very good job of parenting.

    That being said, you're right in that he doesn't have to respond. That's fine. I have to wonder, though, how he treats the women in his family - especially his mother. You will, of course be appalled that I would say such a thing, as you are so often appalled by what I write. But whatever. 
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himsel
    « Reply #116 on: July 03, 2018, 02:07:29 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on July 03, 2018, 01:37:07 PM
    He didn't deny that he is under his parents authority. But if he is, his parents are not doing a very good job of parenting.

    That being said, you're right in that he doesn't have to respond. That's fine. I have to wonder, though, how he treats the women in his family - especially his mother. You will, of course be appalled that I would say such a thing, as you are so often appalled by what I write. But whatever.
    It is not significant that he has not denied being under his parents' authority.  There is no reason that he should dignify baseless accusations with a denial.

    And yes, I am appalled.  You are one of the worst offenders on this forum for turning debates on ideas into personal attacks and making about baseless stories concerning people you disagree with.  But this is bad even for you.  Attacking a person's family is hitting below the belt.  I would normally object to this and it is an even more sensitive topic for me lately because my parents recently died.  Please try to learn to discuss ideas without so much rash judgment and lack of charity.
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    « Reply #117 on: July 03, 2018, 02:09:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jaynek on July 03, 2018, 02:07:29 PM
    It is not significant that he has not denied being under his parents' authority.  There is no reason that he should dignify baseless accusations with a denial.

    And yes, I am appalled.  You are one of the worst offenders on this forum for turning debates on ideas into personal attacks and making about baseless stories concerning people you disagree with.  But this is bad even for you.  Attacking a person's family is hitting below the belt.  I would normally object to this and it is an even more sensitive topic for me lately because my parents recently died.  Please try to learn to discuss ideas without so much rash judgment and lack of charity.

    I'm sorry that your parents recently died. But why make this about you? Or me? 
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himsel
    « Reply #118 on: July 03, 2018, 02:16:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on July 03, 2018, 02:09:47 PM
    But why make this about you?  Or me?
    You make virtually every forum disagreement you have about the person you are debating instead of the ideas under discussion.  Every bit of personal information, real or imagined, is something that you use as a weapon.  

    You jumped into a discussion that you had not even been following and started in with personal attacks and rash judgments. 
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    « Reply #119 on: July 03, 2018, 02:19:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jaynek on July 03, 2018, 02:16:12 PM
    You make virtually every forum disagreement you have about the person you are debating instead of the ideas under discussion.  Every bit of personal information, real or imagined, is something that you use as a weapon.  You are appalling.

    You might want to put me on ignore, Jayne. It might lesson your stress a bit.  :)
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29
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