No, actually I can comprehend quite well thank you.

You’re hiding behind bad reasoning.

What happened in Vatican II isn’t what would happen in marriage. I will say this people don’t turn on one another for  I reason. What exactly are you doing for a woman to want to rob you blind?

My comments are directed at society at large, which concerns about 80-90% of women.  Feminism has infected/destroyed that % of women, and even moreso the current millenials, who are worse off and more screwed up than the baby boomer generation (who had their depression era/WWI parents pass on common sense and the roles of a traditional family).  If you don't see the problem, you don't get out much (which I can't blame you for not wanting to).

In one sense, you're praying for something that doesn't exist and or is so rare that to be invaluable.  Most men, even if they find a good Trad girl to marry, must still recognize feminism because IT'S EVERYWHERE and has infected almost all women (again, especially those of the current youth).

Trad Catholics need to recognize this problem so they can fight its errors, so they can teach the truth and help the young folk straighten up.  This is not an "ism" like protestantism or communism, which is held by people whom you can't influence or change.  No!  Feminism infects the human psyche at its core and subverts males/females in their most foundational ideas - that of gender roles and the purpose of marriage - which, because these issues are so basic to human nature, will more easily AND QUICKLY subvert and destroy society.

The good news is, humans naturally recognize the NATURAL LAW and human nature, so feminism is like a deadly virus which strikes quickly, kills many people, but has a short life span.  So, I believe feminism will also have a short life span because it's so contrary to the natural order that its evil effects will be seen very quickly and violently, therefore its errors will be rejected sooner rather than later.  Yet, Protestantism has been around for 500 years, so how long will feminism last - 100-200?  That's short for human history but covers 3-4 generations, which is a lot of people.

My point is, you need to be on guard, educate yourself and fight this disease.  Prayer alone will not fix a false philosophy, nor will it teach your family the true roles of gender and marriage.

Nope.


Again, the court system is who steals $ from the husband, not the wife (per se).  She might want an equitable separation but the courts have the final decision.  Once a divorce starts, the process is out of your control (in many aspects).


Vintagewife3,
I'm not sure if it's possible to reconcile your above 2 statements.  They seem TOTALLY CONTRADICTORY.

So you just watched your brother's wife leave him by divorce, but you say that a true, catholic woman wouldn't do that.  So here are some questions:

1.  Did you recognize that your brother's former wife was a bad catholic, and unloyal BEFORE THE MARRIAGE?
2.  Did you recognize that she wasn't loyal and supportive BEFORE MARRIAGE?
3.  If you didn't, then how could he have recognized this?
4.  If neither of you recognized it, then your "trust" you had in her was wrong, right?
5.  And if you were both wrong, then others who are dating could be wrong too, right?
6.  So, the point is, one can't really know if the person they are marrying is trustworthy, loyal to the end (because you're not at the end yet), and supportive.
7.  Ergo, men could be wrong about who they marry, or their wives can change and be tempted to evil, therefore a prenup is necessary.

They were never married, and she is a newly baptized lutheran.

If the main objections to the points that Croix and I have raised were related to JUST the prenup, I can understand that.  But most people are objecting to the current society's errors (acting as if they didn't exist, or "aren't that bad"), which means they are either 1) sheltered and out of touch, 2) naive, or 3) infected with these bad ideals themselves.

To date, including all of the threads on these topics, the % of women who have admitted that feminism is a major problem and has/will affect spouses (and them) is what, 5%?  Admitting there is a problem is the first step to recovery.  We are FAR, FAR away from the first step, even among trads.

Ok, then your example is irrelevant to the discussion.