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Offline Carissima

Re: Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himsel
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2018, 11:01:29 AM »
Quote from: Cera on June 29, 2018, 02:06:16 PM
Ephesians 5:22-25
Let women be subject to their husbands, as to the Lord: 23Because the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ is the head of the church. He is the saviour of his body. 24Therefore as the church is subject to Christ, so also let the wives be to their husbands in all things. 25Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himself up for it. . .

When seen in context, the Bible actually makes sense.
An anti-Catholic troll is loose on these threads to thumbs down a Scripture passage. Sad soul needs prayers. 
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Offline Carissima

Re: Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himsel
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2018, 11:37:25 AM »
Quote from: Croix de Fer on June 29, 2018, 10:52:03 PM

Likewise, a man is not obligated to deliver himself up for a disobedient, wicked wife whose very actions reflect her lack of faith in her husband.

Apparently, you didn't see this Bible verse in the correct whole context.
Sorry, but you are dead wrong. 

And you have most definitely proved that it would not be prudent for you to marry until your error is corrected.

Christ delivered Himself up for souls..the husband and wife deliver themselves up for each other. 
Both the husband and wife have a spiritual duty to get each ones soul to Heaven. It is a Life’s Mission in the Marriage State. 
If one of the spouses fails and turns to a life of sin (or minor faults/overall weakness) it is the responsibility of the other spouse to obtain the grace on behalf of the failing one to merit their conversion back from error. 

This is a very simple fact of Catholic Marriage, and for you Croix it is completely missing from your sense and understanding of the Sacrament of Matrimony and the Marriage State. 

Prenuptial agreement and financial stability be damned, it is the soul of the spouse and their eternal destiny, that is what matters. 
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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himsel
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2018, 11:40:54 AM »
I sure am glad that Christ didn't expect us to sign a "pre-nup" before he climbed onto His Cross.  He got on the Cross even though every single one of us didn't deserve it.
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Offline jen51

Re: Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himsel
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2018, 11:53:59 AM »
Quote from: 2Vermont on June 30, 2018, 11:40:54 AM
I sure am glad that Christ didn't expect us to sign a "pre-nup" before he climbed onto His Cross.  He got on the Cross even though every single one of us didn't deserve it.
Yes! This is a relief to be sure.
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Offline Carissima

Re: Husbands, love your wives, as Christ also loved the church, and delivered himsel
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2018, 12:39:25 PM »
Quote from: Croix de Fer on June 30, 2018, 12:20:26 PM
Lame rhetorical nonsense. You think it's clever but it's a failure.

Jesus Christ's Sacrifice and Blood covers only Catholics baptized into Him with water and Spirit, and who die with no mortal sins on their souls. These faithful (water Baptism and adhere to the Faith) are the only true members of the Catholic Church - the only Ark of Salvation - to whom Christ is married. By their faith and works, they show their love, glorification and obedience to God. Jesus Christ didn't sacrifice Himself for anyone outside of His Church. Just as God gave the perfidious Jews a bill of divorce for rejecting, betraying and crucifying His Son, anyone outside of the Church is no spouse of Christ.

Likewise, no man is obligated to sacrifice himself for a disobedient wife who doesn't love him. Prenups protect the man from predatory women who would steal everything of which he built and earned. God gave us brains and prudence. Man should use them to protect himself from these pigs of Hades. Nothing wrong with prenups.

You have no real argument.
You fail in your reasoning, and miserably so.
You equate Christ saving souls who die in His grace to a wife who is still living but only away from you.
If you don’t see this gaping hole in your logic, I don’t think anyone can help you short of a miracle from Heaven. 
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