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Offline Bonaventure

Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
« Reply #50 on: December 03, 2019, 04:52:00 PM »
Quote from: Meg on December 03, 2019, 02:22:40 PM
Poche is hardly the only forum member who will not admit that he (or she) is wrong; nor is he the only one who will not apologize for being wrong. The sedevacantists come to mind regarding this.

Don't think that I'm a fan of Poche. I am not. I've debated issues with him, and he never admits he's wrong - I know that. But he's not the only one who is guilty of this.

Most of what you allude to deals with differences of opinion.  And these are on generally quite complicated matters, not simple, straight-forward black/white issues.

Poche clearly misquoted scripture in order to support his unsupportable position, which makes such misquote seem quite deliberate. It's not too hard to look up the chapter/verse.  And it would be a different story if the cited verse is one known to have different translations.  If he were using some other translation, then it would be a simple matter of simply citing the proper source.  But he hasn't.  Because he can't.  Which means he's a liar.  
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Offline Mark 79

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Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
« Reply #51 on: December 03, 2019, 04:57:40 PM »
Quote from: Meg on December 03, 2019, 02:22:40 PM
Poche is hardly the only forum member who will not admit that he (or she) is wrong; nor is he the only one who will not apologize for being wrong. The sedevacantists come to mind regarding this.

Don't think that I'm a fan of Poche. I am not. I've debated issues with him, and he never admits he's wrong - I know that. But he's not the only one who is guilty of this.
In point of fact, YOU do what Poche does. YOU contradict settled doctrine (the degrees of theological certitude). You continue to conflate anathematized heresy with legitimate opinions. In the face of the evidence provided from Ott, YOU have not admitted you are wrong in that point. Whether or not you like it, there are theologians whose opinions differ from yours. Disagreement on unsettled matters is NOT heresy, Behar.

Further, as soon as QVD provided evidence that I was in error in saying that cuм Ex Apostolatus Officio had not been abrogated, I immediately publicly admitted and retracted my error. Also, I immediately corrected my website. cuм Ex Apostolatus Officio has been abrogated. I deal in evidence and truth. You deal in muddle-headed emotionalism.
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
« Reply #52 on: December 03, 2019, 05:15:00 PM »
I’m not sure that Poche is dealing with a full deck of cards.  I’ve never seen him carry on any intelligent conversation; most of his posts are off-topic and confusing.  If he’s truly just a bit slow, then his errors are explainable even if he lacks the mental capacity to see them as wrong.  If he is a normal guy, then he’s a horrible liar and a modernist to the core.  
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Offline Mark 79

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Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
« Reply #53 on: December 03, 2019, 08:02:39 PM »
I do not see "slow" in a man who can parse a docuмent to pull partial quotes and bowdlerize full quotes to invert the actual meaning. No, that takes cunning and moral depravity.
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Offline BTNYC

Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
« Reply #54 on: December 03, 2019, 08:12:41 PM »
Quote from: Mark 79 on December 03, 2019, 08:02:39 PM
I do not see "slow" in a man who can parse a docuмent to pull partial quotes and bowdlerize full quotes to invert the actual meaning. No, that takes cunning and moral depravity.

Agreed 100%.
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