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Offline Aleah

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Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2019, 05:06:05 AM »
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  • Mark79: Wow, you really can be an asshole... sheesh.
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    Offline Meg

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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #31 on: December 03, 2019, 05:14:36 AM »
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  • And again you counsel lying. You are a willful, serial, habitual, unrepentant liar, a falsifier of Scripture.

    I can understand your frustration with Poche. But I'm fairly sure that we aren't supposed to post the same thing (as you do above) over and over and over again. There a forum rule against that. I think.
    "This forum is a space for discussion to defend the Catholic Faith following Monsignor Marcel Lefebvre. It is therefore not for rallying to the conciliar church nor for sedevacantism"
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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #32 on: December 03, 2019, 09:05:52 AM »
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  • I can understand your frustration with Poche. But I'm fairly sure that we aren't supposed to post the same thing (as you do above) over and over and over again. There a forum rule against that. I think.

    Maybe I missed it, but where's the post where Poche not only admits that he falsified scripture, but apologizes for it? Or, alternatively, the post where he refutes such allegations? I haven't seen it.  If you know where it is, please post a link to it.

    Otherwise, Poche has undoubtedly seen the allegation, as he's used it in non sequitur responses to it.  So what's the excuse?  If I were accused of having falsified scripture, I sure would want to either refute any such allegation, or apologize profusely for it; I've seen neither.

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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #33 on: December 03, 2019, 09:52:13 AM »
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  • Maybe I missed it, but where's the post where Poche not only admits that he falsified scripture, but apologizes for it? Or, alternatively, the post where he refutes such allegations? I haven't seen it.  If you know where it is, please post a link to it.

    Otherwise, Poche has undoubtedly seen the allegation, as he's used it in non sequitur responses to it.  So what's the excuse?  If I were accused of having falsified scripture, I sure would want to either refute any such allegation, or apologize profusely for it; I've seen neither.
    Truly so.
    Similarly Meg has not abjured her Sede Tourette's anathemas.
    She has made herself an accomplice of Poochie by defending his presence here, falsely insisting that the (sententia communis)  opinions of sedevacantists warrant the same damnation at Poochie's (propositio haeretica) Double Covenant heresy.
    Meg has not abjured her sede anathemas even though she has repeatedly been rebutted by Ott's exposition of the grades of Theological Certitude.
      

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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #34 on: December 03, 2019, 10:04:45 AM »
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  • If I were accused of having falsified scripture, I sure would want to either refute any such allegation, or apologize profusely for it; I've seen neither.

    Agreed. Similarly, if any of us were publicly accused of the monstrous heresy of denying the very Divinity of Our Lord, I'm sure none of us would waste a second before loudly, publicly, explicitly denying that slander, and just as loudly, publicly, and explicitly affirming and proclaiming our belief in His Divinity. The putative "Bishop of Rome," however, apparently sees no such need.

    So Poche is just following the Bergoglian example in his assent-giving silence.

    "iHagan lio!"


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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #35 on: December 03, 2019, 10:11:13 AM »
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  • Mark79: Wow, you really can be an asshole... sheesh.


    Well, that confirms my suspicions that in many a "Trad" woman there's a Sarah Silverman itching to get out.

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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #36 on: December 03, 2019, 10:16:39 AM »
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  • I would ask that in this thread and others like it we set aside our disagreements so that we can strategize on the best manner of bringing the TLM to more people.  
    The whole Catholic world went to the Latin Mass up to like 1970, and it did nothing for them. If bringing the Latin Mass to more people is your goal, then your standards are very low. The Latin Mass is not a magical end all be all. 
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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #37 on: December 03, 2019, 10:22:13 AM »
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  • I would ask that in this thread and others like it we set aside our disagreements so that we can strategize on the best manner of bringing the TLM to more people.  


    With all this in mind, one understands how it is that the Modernists express astonishment when they are reprimanded or punished. What is imputed to them as a fault they regard as a sacred duty. They understand the needs of consciences better than anyone else, since they come into closer touch with them than does the ecclesiastical authority. Nay, they embody them, so to speak, in themselves. Hence, for them to speak and to write publicly is a bounden duty. Let authority rebuke them if it pleases — they have their own conscience on their side and an intimate experience which tells them with certainty that what they deserve is not blame but praise. Then they reflect that, after all, there is no progress without a battle and no battle without its victims; and victims they are willing to be like the prophets and Christ Himself. They have no bitterness in their hearts against the authority which uses them roughly, for after all they readily admit that it is only doing its duty as authority. Their sole grief is that it remains deaf to their warnings, for in this way it impedes the progress of souls, but the hour will most surely come when further delay will be impossible, for if the laws of evolution may be checked for a while they cannot be finally evaded. And thus they go their way, reprimands and condemnations not withstanding, masking an incredible audacity under a mock semblance of humility. While they make a pretense of bowing their heads, their minds and hands are more boldly intent than ever on carrying out their purposes. And this policy they follow willingly and wittingly, both because it is part of their system that authority is to be stimulated but not dethroned, and because it is necessary for them to remain within the ranks of the Church in order that they may gradually transform the collective conscience. And in saying this, they fail to perceive that they are avowing that the collective conscience is not with them, and that they have no right to claim to be its interpreters.

    -St. Pius X, Pascendi Dominici Gregis


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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #38 on: December 03, 2019, 10:43:49 AM »
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    Mark79, Wow, you really can be an asshole... sheesh.

    Insulated by female privilege, will it be enough to stop the ban hammer for having violated the forum's rules not to insult other members? Or is the ban hammer only for men exhibiting "toxic masculinity"?
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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #39 on: December 03, 2019, 11:16:18 AM »
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    My one wish is to promote the beauty and joy of the authentic Catholic Tradition.



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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #40 on: December 03, 2019, 01:01:03 PM »
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  • Insulated by female privilege, will it be enough to stop the ban hammer for having violated the forum's rules not to insult other members? Or is the ban hammer only for men exhibiting "toxic masculinity"?
    When has a man EVER been banned for just calling someone an asshole? I suppose you'd have a harder time playing the perpetual victim if you ever stuck to the truth.


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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #41 on: December 03, 2019, 01:51:38 PM »
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    Offline Meg

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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #42 on: December 03, 2019, 02:22:40 PM »
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  • Maybe I missed it, but where's the post where Poche not only admits that he falsified scripture, but apologizes for it? Or, alternatively, the post where he refutes such allegations? I haven't seen it.  If you know where it is, please post a link to it.

    Otherwise, Poche has undoubtedly seen the allegation, as he's used it in non sequitur responses to it.  So what's the excuse?  If I were accused of having falsified scripture, I sure would want to either refute any such allegation, or apologize profusely for it; I've seen neither.

    Poche is hardly the only forum member who will not admit that he (or she) is wrong; nor is he the only one who will not apologize for being wrong. The sedevacantists come to mind regarding this.

    Don't think that I'm a fan of Poche. I am not. I've debated issues with him, and he never admits he's wrong - I know that. But he's not the only one who is guilty of this.
    "This forum is a space for discussion to defend the Catholic Faith following Monsignor Marcel Lefebvre. It is therefore not for rallying to the conciliar church nor for sedevacantism"
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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #43 on: December 03, 2019, 02:32:14 PM »
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  • Mark79: Wow, you really can be an asshole... sheesh.

    True. And yet if any of us females complain about his behavior, we will be criticized. But I expect that from the drooling gorillas that post on this forum - those who have a problem with women. It goes along with a certain extreme segment of the trad population (and they don't support the Resistance). One gets used to it after awhile.
    "This forum is a space for discussion to defend the Catholic Faith following Monsignor Marcel Lefebvre. It is therefore not for rallying to the conciliar church nor for sedevacantism"
    - From the French Resistance forum (Francophone forum, in France)

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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #44 on: December 03, 2019, 02:41:32 PM »
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  • True. And yet if any of us females complain about his behavior, we will be criticized. But I expect that from the drooling gorillas that post on this forum - those who have a problem with women. It goes along with a certain extreme segment of the trad population (and they don't support the Resistance). One gets used to it after awhile.
    So now you are insulting men in addition to your ceaseless Sede bashing.  You aren't really in a position to be lecturing Mark on netiquette.

     

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