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Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2019, 03:05:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jaynek on December 03, 2019, 02:41:32 PM
    So now you are insulting men in addition to your ceaseless Sede bashing.  You aren't really in a position to be lecturing Mark on netiquette.
    Jayne, I've reached my1/5th of your total upvotes. You are being shortchanged!
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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #46 on: December 03, 2019, 03:22:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on November 27, 2019, 08:55:39 AM
    St Dominic was trying to convert heretics in his country.  He spent hours preparing a speech he was to give at a conference where he hoped to convince many heretics of their errors.  As he was preparing, he kept praying for guidance on what to say.  Our Lady appeared to him and told him not to preach about heresy, but to preach the on the rosary.  So he did just that.  St Dominic converted thousands in his life, by simply preaching about the wonders and greatness of the rosary.
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    In your case, if you cannot preach the rosary, then gather together those friends you have and say a group rosary for the school until you start seeing Our Lady make changes.  She can move the obstacles which you currently facing.
    This is really good advice and far more achievable than trying to get the TLM said at a Novus Ordo school.  

    I think that there is not much more to be said on the actual topic of this thread which makes it especially susceptible to the sort of off topic digressions that we are seeing.  
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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #47 on: December 03, 2019, 03:56:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on December 03, 2019, 02:22:40 PM
    Poche is hardly the only forum member who will not admit that he (or she) is wrong; nor is he the only one who will not apologize for being wrong. The sedevacantists come to mind regarding this.

    Don't think that I'm a fan of Poche. I am not. I've debated issues with him, and he never admits he's wrong - I know that. But he's not the only one who is guilty of this.

    Poche is not merely "wrong" or obstinate. He is demonstrably a bad-willed liar and heretic shilling on behalf of Bergoglio and his cabal, and probably paid to do so.

    I left the forum when it was made clear that Poche is unbannable and has some kind of protected status around here. However, the tireless - and, I daresay heroic - efforts of Mark79 to make Poche's stay here as uncomfortable as possible, in the hopes that he will (God willing) leave of his own accord, has inspired me to come back and join him in that laudable campaign.

    Poche is not a "challenge" to us, any more than an actual conciliar AI spambot would be. He refuses to engage in any honest debate. He has demonstrated his devotion to Modernism, Religious Indifferentism, feminism, and multiculturalism more times than can be counted. He has openly blasphemed St. John Chrysostom. He twists and perverts the words of Popes, Saints, and Sacred Scripture to further the spread of error. So, as long as this forum counts among its members women and female-brained men capable of being swayed by Poche's perfunctory outbursts of false piety and false compassion (as is attested by the fact that Poche's "likes" count is higher than 0), then he most certainly be dismissed as "harmless" as he so often is.
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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #48 on: December 03, 2019, 04:03:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on December 03, 2019, 02:32:14 PM
    True. And yet if any of us females complain about his behavior, we will be criticized. But I expect that from the drooling gorillas that post on this forum - those who have a problem with women.

    As I said, itching to get out.

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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #49 on: December 03, 2019, 04:05:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: BTNYC on December 03, 2019, 03:56:57 PM
    I left the forum when it was made clear that Poche is unbannable and has some kind of protected status around here. However, the tireless - and, I daresay heroic - efforts of Mark79 to make Poche's stay here as uncomfortable as possible, in the hopes that he will (God willing) leave of his own accord, has inspired me to come back and join him in that laudable campaign.
    Welcome back.  I have been appreciating your posts.  
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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #50 on: December 03, 2019, 04:52:00 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on December 03, 2019, 02:22:40 PM
    Poche is hardly the only forum member who will not admit that he (or she) is wrong; nor is he the only one who will not apologize for being wrong. The sedevacantists come to mind regarding this.

    Don't think that I'm a fan of Poche. I am not. I've debated issues with him, and he never admits he's wrong - I know that. But he's not the only one who is guilty of this.

    Most of what you allude to deals with differences of opinion.  And these are on generally quite complicated matters, not simple, straight-forward black/white issues.

    Poche clearly misquoted scripture in order to support his unsupportable position, which makes such misquote seem quite deliberate. It's not too hard to look up the chapter/verse.  And it would be a different story if the cited verse is one known to have different translations.  If he were using some other translation, then it would be a simple matter of simply citing the proper source.  But he hasn't.  Because he can't.  Which means he's a liar.  
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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #51 on: December 03, 2019, 04:57:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on December 03, 2019, 02:22:40 PM
    Poche is hardly the only forum member who will not admit that he (or she) is wrong; nor is he the only one who will not apologize for being wrong. The sedevacantists come to mind regarding this.

    Don't think that I'm a fan of Poche. I am not. I've debated issues with him, and he never admits he's wrong - I know that. But he's not the only one who is guilty of this.
    In point of fact, YOU do what Poche does. YOU contradict settled doctrine (the degrees of theological certitude). You continue to conflate anathematized heresy with legitimate opinions. In the face of the evidence provided from Ott, YOU have not admitted you are wrong in that point. Whether or not you like it, there are theologians whose opinions differ from yours. Disagreement on unsettled matters is NOT heresy, Behar.

    Further, as soon as QVD provided evidence that I was in error in saying that cuм Ex Apostolatus Officio had not been abrogated, I immediately publicly admitted and retracted my error. Also, I immediately corrected my website. cuм Ex Apostolatus Officio has been abrogated. I deal in evidence and truth. You deal in muddle-headed emotionalism.
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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #52 on: December 03, 2019, 05:15:00 PM »
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    • I’m not sure that Poche is dealing with a full deck of cards.  I’ve never seen him carry on any intelligent conversation; most of his posts are off-topic and confusing.  If he’s truly just a bit slow, then his errors are explainable even if he lacks the mental capacity to see them as wrong.  If he is a normal guy, then he’s a horrible liar and a modernist to the core.  
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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #53 on: December 03, 2019, 08:02:39 PM »
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    • I do not see "slow" in a man who can parse a docuмent to pull partial quotes and bowdlerize full quotes to invert the actual meaning. No, that takes cunning and moral depravity.
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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #54 on: December 03, 2019, 08:12:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on December 03, 2019, 08:02:39 PM
    I do not see "slow" in a man who can parse a docuмent to pull partial quotes and bowdlerize full quotes to invert the actual meaning. No, that takes cunning and moral depravity.

    Agreed 100%.
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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #55 on: December 03, 2019, 08:24:37 PM »
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    • And cunning enough to conceal his intent in plain sight:

    poche
    n.   A Middle English form of poke, pouch.
    An obsolete form of poach.

    Yes, for 7 years the moral reprobate, habitual liar has been poking, poaching, and defecating in our family gathering.
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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #56 on: December 03, 2019, 08:43:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on December 03, 2019, 08:24:37 PM
    And cunning enough to conceal his intent in plain sight:

    poche
    n. A Middle English form of poke, pouch.
    An obsolete form of poach.

    Yes, for 7 years the moral reprobate, habitual liar has been poking, poaching, and defecating in our family gathering.

    Interesting. I had interpreted "poche" in the sense of the architectural term - i.e. the black spaces in a blueprint indicating areas hidden behind walls, pillars, and other solid structures. This seemed to me to be a wink and a nod at his subterfuge, hidden behind his false piety and feigned simplicity.

    Either way, it seems clear to any with sight to see that that simplicity is feigned, and falling for the feint (as many here have) is just what Poche wants.

    Dovelike innocence is admirable and good, but it's worth little if we ignore the other half of Our Lord's admonishment, and fail to pair it with serpentine wisdom. Snakes abound - here as everywhere - in the "hidden spaces."

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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #57 on: December 03, 2019, 08:54:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: poche on December 03, 2019, 02:37:43 AM
    My one wish is to promote the beauty and joy of the authentic Catholic Tradition.
    You? Of all the people on this forum. You don't even know what "authentic Catholic tradition" is.
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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #58 on: December 03, 2019, 09:16:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: JezusDeKoning on December 03, 2019, 08:54:46 PM
    You? Of all the people on this forum. You don't even know what "authentic Catholic tradition" is.

    As the forum's resident Elie Wiesel-like "racist hunter," I don't see why you'd have such a problem with the forum's resident Mit Brennender Sorge copy-paste-bot.

    This isn't the first time I recall you being "of two minds" on a subject, JdK - https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/a-priest-resists-evil/msg364226/#msg364226. Your "cousin" doesn't still have your login information, does he?

    Is this the "Jєωιѕн mitosis" I've heard so much about?


     
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    Re: How to turn my novus ordo high school trad
    « Reply #59 on: December 03, 2019, 10:08:59 PM »
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    • I'm very open to correction on the subject of race, being challenged and adopting a different viewpoint.
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