Author Topic: How Sinful is Marijuana? (Read 17895 times)

roscoe · « **Reply #90 on:** October 18, 2009, 12:01:42 AM »

imo the 'Medicinal' use of MJ is beneficial for all those suffering from the fact that there is a fallen nature to mankind.

sedetrad · « **Reply #91 on:** October 18, 2009, 03:38:22 PM »

"Using any substance to "get high" or "feel good" or "forget your troubles" or anything like that is not a good way to do penance and mortify your flesh."

That is exactly why people use alcohol occasionally to forget their troubles for a time. Not everyone is called to mortify their flesh 24 hours a day. If you can do that, you are a better man than I. Maybe you should scourge yourself as well. IT would bring about more of the consistent mortification you desire. We are human beings and forgetting about ones troubles for a time is not a bad thing psychologically or emotionally. As humans if we do not do this, it can cause psychological illness and emotional distress. The fact that people are consistently high strung and overly worried is the reason for the generalized anxiety that afflicts our nation.

amariec · « **Reply #92 on:** October 18, 2009, 08:42:54 PM »

Quote from: sedetrad

"Using any substance to "get high" or "feel good" or "forget your troubles" or anything like that is not a good way to do penance and mortify your flesh."

That is exactly why people use alcohol occasionally to forget their troubles for a time. Not everyone is called to mortify their flesh 24 hours a day. If you can do that, you are a better man than I. Maybe you should scourge yourself as well. IT would bring about more of the consistent mortification you desire. We are human beings and forgetting about ones troubles for a time is not a bad thing psychologically or emotionally. As humans if we do not do this, it can cause psychological illness and emotional distress. The fact that people are consistently high strung and overly worried is the reason for the generalized anxiety that afflicts our nation.

i completely agree and this is how i feel.

furthermore, while in confession i asked the father if it was a mortal sin. he simply said it was forbidden by law but he could not tell me for sure if it was a mortal sin. even he admitted this was a tough question/subject.

Vladimir · « **Reply #93 on:** October 18, 2009, 08:56:16 PM »

Quote from: sedetrad

"Using any substance to "get high" or "feel good" or "forget your troubles" or anything like that is not a good way to do penance and mortify your flesh."

That is exactly why people use alcohol occasionally to forget their troubles for a time. Not everyone is called to mortify their flesh 24 hours a day. If you can do that, you are a better man than I. Maybe you should scourge yourself as well. IT would bring about more of the consistent mortification you desire. We are human beings and forgetting about ones troubles for a time is not a bad thing psychologically or emotionally. As humans if we do not do this, it can cause psychological illness and emotional distress. The fact that people are consistently high strung and overly worried is the reason for the generalized anxiety that afflicts our nation.

I think that there are healthier (and legal!) ways to do that. Whenever I am feeling anxious, stressed, angry, sad, happy or any other emotion that may overcome me, I often sit down at the organ, the piano, or the harpsichord (when I have access to one) and play some music to forget about everything else. When I don't have access to an instrument, I listen to music.

Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach

Caio di Corea · « **Reply #94 on:** October 18, 2009, 09:09:17 PM »

Quote from: St Jude Thaddeus

Show me a quote where it says it is OK to smoke marijuana.

Show me any quote from any Catholic source where the use of any stupefactants at all is recommended or condoned.

Pius IX, Leo XIII, and Pius X all used tobacco. It seems they didn't know that it was dangerous but I think they should have not used it because it's unnecessary pleasure.

http://books.google.com/books?id=5GoAAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA250&dq=pius+x+tobacco&lr=&ei=j857Sff8ForONeuE5awE#PPA250,M1

"Unlike many of his brothers, he [St. Pius X] does not disdain the use of tobacco ; he is passionately fond of music, and is himself a musician who, with the aid of his close friend, the famous composer Perosi, may be expected to effect considerable revival of Church music."

http://books.google.com/books?id=fCwEjf8hotAC&pg=PA146&dq=#v=onepage&q=&f=false
During the Pope's [Leo XIII] recent illness, the doctors thought it their duty to prohibit him from snuff-taking. The illustrious patient suffered keenly from this deprivation. The times have greatly changed since Urban VIII and Innocent X vigorously proscribed tobacco, the former Pope going so far as to threaten to excommunicate any one who might take a pinch of snuff within the precincts of the Vatican. The brief issued on the 1st February, 1659, by Innocent X against the use of tobacco was abrogated on the 16th January, 1725, by Benedict XIII, for very good and sufficient reasons. Like Benedict XIII, Leo XIII takes snuff in large quantities, and it is well known that Pius IX used to smoke. A snuff-taking Pope after a smoking Pope! Tobacco is restored to favour in the Church.