Author Topic: How Sinful is Marijuana? (Read 17842 times)

roscoe · « **Reply #120 on:** October 19, 2009, 11:04:13 PM »

Keep in mind that the Catholic Bible is very specific in using the plaurel herbs as opposed to the Prot herb. There is NO WAY any green herb can be excluded from God's blessing acc to the Catholic version of the Bible. Unless of course there is something in a later book of the Bible which I am unaware of retracting that Law.

So far this discovery has not been offered by anyone here. Neither has there been fulfilled any of the prev requests for evidence of a Pope, Council, INQ, Index or any other authority of Western Civilisation proclaiming that it is or has been at any time illicit to smoke MJ for pleasure or any other reason.

roscoe · « **Reply #121 on:** October 19, 2009, 11:15:41 PM »

Again SJT-- you are the one who started this onslaught not me.

At any rate I have always made it clear on this forum that I am not a theologian and indeed have never read the whole Bible although I am of course familiar with a good portion of it.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #122 on:** October 20, 2009, 12:23:34 AM »

Yeah, it's a tough one. How much is too much? When are you drunk or stoned? And how do you know?

I had three spiced pumpkin ales, high alcohol content, this last Friday with my fish dinner and felt a bit guilty about it, like it was excessive ( they were tasty ). I was mumbling through the Rosary. I doubt it was a pleasing sight to God.

From now on I'm going to limit myself to two beers with food, or two glasses of wine, and not drink unless I'm eating. It's good to set rules, even if they are a bit overly strict. They keep you out of trouble.

Before I was Catholic I used to get those giant bottles of Belgian beer like Chimay that are about 12-15% alcohol and blitz myself. It would be easy to fall back into that habit. It would even be easy to give myself an excuse since all those gourmet beers are brewed by monks, supposedly. Vatican II monks now, but I assume the tradition goes back a lot farther than that.

Back then I was living an evil life, would drive drunk and do other bad things while drunk. Now if I drank a Chimay I'd just curl up and go to sleep. But numbing yourself into a stupor is hardly putting on the armor of God. Maybe there is something wrong with simply paying $10 or $11 for a bottle of beer.

I have never taken a drug. I've always been too protective of the old Gehirn. I remember my mom offering me anti-depressants when I used to be suicidally miserable and I'd even turn those down. No one messes with my brain! Instead I began to read Kierkegaard and Deleuze and Guattari and watch weird occult films and listen to occult music and messed it up more than any drug could have...

The question with marijuana is, CAN you smoke just a little? My understanding is that it is far more addictive than alcohol.

roscoe · « **Reply #123 on:** October 20, 2009, 10:28:06 PM »

An allegation that smoking MJ leads to sinful practices is in the eye of the beholder. Would reading 30 vols of von Pastor while stoned be considered sinful behavior?--- I would not recommend this practice to the neophtye pot smoker however as your mind does tend to drift of the page until you have been at it for a while. I would look some where else for the reason why you got involved in sinful behavior.

While an argument of silence isn't enough for CM, it is for me. Look at all the Bulls, Encyclicals, Briefs etc proscribing things like tobacco, street lighting, railroads and even cautioning women on make-up.
If there was something morally wrong with MJ then a Church authority would tell us so. Not CM, SJT( who says I committed blasphemy) or the banned poster pope innocence.

roscoe · « **Reply #124 on:** October 20, 2009, 10:54:42 PM »

I 'highly' disagree with CM's interpretation of Gen 9:3 and his allegation that the herbs are only for eating but OK have it your way. There are variuos ways to brew or eat the stuff but smoking is just more efficient imo. If the words were ...even as IN the green herbs... you may be right but these are not the words. The words are merely ...even AS the green herbs..... God is merely drawing an anology.

So you guys are out of ammo on this one.

Re MK-- wrong CM and thank you for reminding me. I had forgotten to mention that in addition to being a block in the way of an MK programmer attempting to brainwash a subject, MJ also acts as an aid in recovering ones memory. A wonder drug in deed.

The bad experiences you Jansenists had with MJ is not the fault of the MJ.