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Offline Yeti

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Re: Housing Greed?
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2026, 09:54:38 AM »
My sister-in-law is selling a rental house for 111% (bought 133k) increase from June 2020 in a run-of-the-mill working-class suburb of Missouri..

She is complaining that she can't find buyers.
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It sounds like she's trying to sell the house for more than it's worth if she can't find anyone to pay her what she is asking.

Re: Housing Greed?
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2026, 10:34:41 AM »
How come people believe they need to own a house in order to marry and raise a family? Historically speaking, most people always rented, and only the rich owned homes, at least in Europe. This is where the term "landlord" came from, the literal Lord of the land people resided on.
The inability to purchase a house in one's entire lifespan is what I was getting at.

One does not need to own a house before they get married. Or even a few years after they get married. No one should have be in the perfect situation to get married.

But if you are suggesting that the average man should feel satisfied never owning a home after 10-20 or so years of marriage, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe some men are fine with it. But others won't be. And there is nothing wrong, liberal, modern, or Americanist about it.

This goes beyond land, it is about preserving what you have to pass onto your family. That is a big part of tradition.

If you read the Life of St. Joseph by Abbess Baij, St. Joseph always felt inadequate regarding the abode he had for the Holy Family (which he built and owned by the way). I brought that up because you have used the Holy Family as an example in another thread on Cathinfo. And when they went to Egypt he made another. He probably did the same thing in the other places he lived. Even if he rent in one or a few places the point still stands.

Also, the Holy Family was three people. You don't need a big house for three people. That's not to say you need one bedroom for all ten children for a larger family. But you will need something larger than what St. Joseph had for his family.


Re: Housing Greed?
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2026, 10:35:17 AM »
How come people believe they need to own a house in order to marry and raise a family? Historically speaking, most people always rented, and only the rich owned homes, at least in Europe. This is where the term "landlord" came from, the literal Lord of the land people resided on.
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Renting in modernity has almost nothing in common with renting in pre-modernity, other than the name.
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A landlord today doesn't live in the land he's renting, in fact he may only know what it looks like because someone sent him a picture of it. His stake in the land is PURELY financial. That's why your rent goes up every year, forcing you to move out eventually. He doesn't care a hoot about providing a stable home, which is necessary for the flourishing of literally every animal in existence, especially human ones (this is especially true of corporate landlords, which are most landlords-- there may be some exceptions here and there).  Renters lack stability-- not just financial stability.  Not that it's their fault (necessarily).  
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Land lords in the pre modern period didn't just own the land their tenants worked, they lived on it. It was their heritage and they were tied to it blood and soil style. As such, he understood and typically fulfilled certain duties to his tenants, not because some regulatory board required it, not because it was good for the brand of his corporation, but because that was his land and his heritage and as a result those working it were an extension of the same identity. It was common for families to work and live on such land generation upon generation. This is often how you get villages and towns.  At the end of the day the technical ownership of this or that property or structure on the lord's land was effectively irrelevant because people were able to live well. I don't mean live luxuriously, I mean live with their social, economic, and religious needs satisfied-- they were able to flourish in the natural sense of the word. And that's what counts.
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At any rate, the modern renting arrangement looks absolutely nothing like historical renting.

Offline FarmerWife

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Re: Housing Greed?
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2026, 10:59:55 AM »
How come people believe they need to own a house in order to marry and raise a family? Historically speaking, most people always rented, and only the rich owned homes, at least in Europe. This is where the term "landlord" came from, the literal Lord of the land people resided on.
Because when you rent, you have no rights and the landlord can do whatever they want, like invade your privacy. You can't even fix up the rental that you're in. The landlord can also kick you out anytime they want if they decide to sell the rental property. So, then you have to scramble to find a new place. It's all about security and not being on someone's timeline. 

Offline Everlast22

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Housing Greed?
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2026, 11:11:20 AM »
Because when you rent, you have no rights and the landlord can do whatever they want, like invade your privacy. You can't even fix up the rental that you're in. The landlord can also kick you out anytime they want if they decide to sell the rental property. So, then you have to scramble to find a new place. It's all about security and not being on someone's timeline.
I have been on both ends, landlord and renter, I'm currently renting. When I was a landlord (because I moved for a job and ended up marrying), the people trashed it, and supposedly they were vetted at 12k a month.... Nah guy's mother was co-signed, had a cheating wife, he got mad, went to jail, then her brat kids help destroy my house. I eventually sold, fixing up the house with family help, then taking my money and just saving up and investing. You SHOULD NOT BE USING A HOUSE AS A MEANS OF INVESTMENT. That's not what a house is for.

My strategy is live 5 min from work renting a house in a good neighborhood for a while until we got a house that was practical and affordable for more kids. I make good money and it's still getting financially unstable to consider buying an overpriced house with a potential crash. I don't think people realize how insanely bad it has gotten in the last 2 years. Exponential increases in COL.