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Offline Nadir

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« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2012, 11:28:49 PM »
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  • Quote from: Sede Catholic
    If anyone knows about the legal right to homeschool, that would be very useful information to post on CathInfo.


    Through the sacrament of Matrimony parents have the responsibilty to educate their own children, and the grace to do it.

    They may delegate that authority if they are unable to fulfill the requirements. They have the responsibility to delegate the authority to somebody who will educate them in the faith. Education is a waste of time if it is based on false creed/s, such as happens in almost all Church and state schools.

    Parents also have the responsibilty to protect their children's purity and innocence, and this is impossible where so-called "life education" which goes under various names, abuses their innocence and interferes with their growth, and may drive them into a life of sin.

    There are Vatican docuмents which spell this out which I cannot name right now. Maybe somebody else has them at their fingertips.

    As far as state law goes, I believe that the law changes from state to state.

    But God's law has supremacy. The rights of the parents stem from natural law, which is based on the natural order, as God created us.
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    « Reply #31 on: September 19, 2012, 08:28:58 AM »
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  • I believe the rules for Homeschooling vary by State. In Illinois, you must send a letter to the Local School District and the Regional Superintendent listing the name and age of the child(ren) and the fact that you will be homeschooling the child(ren). You must also list in what language you will be providing primary instruction.  This is for a federal survey.  

    Homeschoolers in Illinois may request to take the ISTEP and Prairie State exams that the Feds require.  The local districts like it because they usually do very well in every area but high school math.  
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    « Reply #32 on: September 19, 2012, 05:01:54 PM »
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  • In Texas you do nothing. No keeping records, no taking tests, no filing with the school district.

    I think the exception is that if your child was already in school, you have to let the school know that s/he won't be returning.
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    « Reply #33 on: September 19, 2012, 05:25:52 PM »
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    In Texas you do nothing. No keeping records, no taking tests, no filing with the school district.

    I think the exception is that if your child was already in school, you have to let the school know that s/he won't be returning.


    It's like that in England too, in my experience anyhow.

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    « Reply #34 on: September 20, 2012, 12:59:36 PM »
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    If anyone knows about the legal right to homeschool, that would be very useful information to post on CathInfo.


    Check out the HSLDA.  They understand what the UN is doing, how the UN laws eclipse State and federal laws.


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    « Reply #35 on: September 20, 2012, 03:22:01 PM »
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  • For your information, we attend one of the larger chapels in the U.S., and recently listened to a sermon on homeschooling by Father Duverge.   After a very boring hour tirade (excused by Father's passion relating to his strong emotions) against homeschooling we were told that parents who homeschool should not receive absolution from their priests.   Since our parish priest knows all of us "homeschoolers" and we have always received absolution, we still seem to be in good (or maybe good enough) standing.  

    I mentioned Father's name in case anyone would like to ask him personally, and see if his response is the same.  I would imagine so.

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    « Reply #36 on: September 20, 2012, 03:34:09 PM »
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    After a very boring hour tirade (excused by Father's passion relating to his strong emotions) against homeschooling we were told that parents who homeschool should not receive absolution from their priests.


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    « Reply #37 on: September 21, 2012, 07:35:53 AM »
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    For your information, we attend one of the larger chapels in the U.S., and recently listened to a sermon on homeschooling by Father Duverge.   After a very boring hour tirade (excused by Father's passion relating to his strong emotions) against homeschooling we were told that parents who homeschool should not receive absolution from their priests.   Since our parish priest knows all of us "homeschoolers" and we have always received absolution, we still seem to be in good (or maybe good enough) standing.  

    I mentioned Father's name in case anyone would like to ask him personally, and see if his response is the same.  I would imagine so.


    This was in a trad chapel? I've heard of NO DRE or a priest requiring CCD or confirmation class but never a priest forbidding homeschooling. Can you share more what he said? There is something about parents who choose public schools not receiving absolution but homeschooling? ? ?


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    « Reply #38 on: September 21, 2012, 03:55:43 PM »
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    ...After a very boring hour tirade ... against homeschooling we were told that parents who homeschool should not receive absolution from their priests...


    That is wicked.

    That is so sinful.

    It is VERY SINFUL for some character to advocate witholding ABSOLUTION from good Catholic parents who are homeschooling.

    Homeschooling is obviously the best way to bring up good Catholic children, and to try to save their souls.
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    « Reply #39 on: September 21, 2012, 03:59:27 PM »
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  • Of course a parent who HAS to send their children to public schools should also not be withheld absolution. Let's not be elitist here.

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    « Reply #40 on: September 21, 2012, 04:18:14 PM »
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  • Legal right.  The states all have their policies for home school.  AZ is the most leniant (sp) state.  Some parents will not let the government know that they are home schooling and I can't say that I blame them.  The state laws recognize the parents as "the" educator.  As long as the GED is there, go for it.  Some parents may not like that idea, but what else are you going to do when the gov't is so rotten!  I would even recommend a mid wife for delivering babies.  there is also talk that businesses will be pentalized (sp) if they take on a home schooled youth for employment.  I have not seen that yet here in AZ.  I don't know if the GED will be taken away.  The high schools have had curriculum that the home school youth would normally not get.  The law may state that youth must have this curriculum or no diploma or work or college.  Those are things to look into.  Some public schools allow home school youth to take some courses that are offered.  So, look into your state and see how things are and get in touch with a group that is on top of these issues.  They will also recommend that you have a lawyer on the side for a fee, in case some one tries to report you/get nasty and call the CPS.  I hate to say that as years go by, it gets worse.


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    « Reply #41 on: September 21, 2012, 09:57:09 PM »
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  • Tiffany,

    That was one sermon I would rather forget about.  Near the end I started to read the prayers from my missal in order to keep my perspective.

    As my spouse said, "Sometimes you need to look deeper than what appears on the surface."

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    « Reply #42 on: September 24, 2012, 05:28:31 AM »
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    For your information, we attend one of the larger chapels in the U.S., and recently listened to a sermon on homeschooling by Father Duverge.   After a very boring hour tirade (excused by Father's passion relating to his strong emotions) against homeschooling we were told that parents who homeschool should not receive absolution from their priests.   Since our parish priest knows all of us "homeschoolers" and we have always received absolution, we still seem to be in good (or maybe good enough) standing.  

    I mentioned Father's name in case anyone would like to ask him personally, and see if his response is the same.  I would imagine so.


    I've been away for a few days and just discovered this.

    This is appalling!!! Parents have an ABSOLUTE right to educate their children. This comes from the Church and from God Himself! No priest can take that away from parents.

    Just did a search and there seems to be two SSPX Fathers Duverger, Pierre and Loic. Whichever it is, he has no right whatsoever to make such a threat to hang over the heads of loving and responsible parents.

    Some action ought to be taken, so that he no longer remains in his ignorance and interferes with the rights and unity of parents and their children. There is one thing that schools tend to do to families and that is to DIVIDE them, children against parents.

    It seems to me that SSPX is not generally supportive of homeschooling. It seems that if they set up a school the faithful are expected to support it by sending their children to it. But the children do not necessarily come out Catholic.

    Though I must say that when mine were young the sisters in Sydney sent us good books and moral support, at a distance of 3000 kms. They were most kind and supportive of our family.

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    « Reply #43 on: September 30, 2012, 03:10:46 AM »
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  • I just read this off of a blog ... an example of a state which requires you to jump through hoops in order to homeschool.

    Pennsylvania:
    http://www.elc-pa.org/pubs/downloads/english/oth-homeschooling%207-08.pdf

    Only bright point in there was that your children have the right to participate in the local school's athletic or music programs.
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    « Reply #44 on: September 30, 2012, 03:33:28 AM »
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  • They even mandate vaccination!  :cussing:
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.