Author Topic: homeschooled children at disadvantage (Read 2744 times)

Vladimir · « **on:** May 22, 2012, 10:12:00 AM »

Do home-schooled children suffer from any negative discrimination when it comes to college applications?

Is it difficult to keep the children educated in math and science at a level comparable to their public school peers?

What about children that attend private school at traditional chapels?

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #1 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:19:11 AM »

I don't know much about private schools, but homeschooled children are actually at an advantage when it comes to college because they can do dual-enrollment, meaning they can take college courses while they're still in high school.

As to your second question, not at all. It's probably easier to keep them educated in those subjects through homeschooling rather than in government school.

momofmany · « **Reply #2 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:39:32 AM »

No disadvantage if the right steps are taken during high school.
1) there are accredited catholic home schools, their transcript is the same as PS 101 or private school

2)homeschooling is common enough that even a mom transcript is accepted as long as test scores back them up

3) there are enough co-ops, online classes and dual credit classes that higher level math and science really aren't an issue.

Re: dual credit...dual credit isn't something only homeschoolers can do. Public school kids have access and in our area more access as the public schoolers can take dual credit for free and homeschoolers have to pay.

My two oldest took advntage of dual credit but it will be unaffordable for the eat of them at $300/credit.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #3 on:** May 22, 2012, 10:48:36 AM »

Quote from: Vladimir

Do home-schooled children suffer from any negative discrimination when it comes to college applications?

Is it difficult to keep the children educated in math and science at a level comparable to their public school peers?

What about children that attend private school at traditional chapels?

It would appear that the Ivies took a lot of trads many years ago, compared to Novus Ordoites, probably because they wanted to subvert Trad-dom.

I know orientals highly esteem prestigious universities. Traditional Catholics, however, shouldn't worry about it.

Judging by the results of a simple history test Harvard students took a few years back, they're not getting a solid education:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2007-09-17-history-test_N.htm

Nylndech · « **Reply #4 on:** May 22, 2012, 12:35:25 PM »

I would have missed out on an education on being bullied and sɛҳuąƖly abused by classmates if I was home schooled.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #5 on:** May 22, 2012, 01:29:57 PM »

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I would have missed out on an education on being bullied and sɛҳuąƖly abused by classmates if I was home schooled.

You have to ask yourself if you can trust SSPX schools if Bishop Fellay puts some guy like Krah on the board of one.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #6 on:** May 22, 2012, 01:32:38 PM »

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I would have missed out on an education on being bullied and sɛҳuąƖly abused by classmates if I was home schooled.

In addition to lousy instruction, outright propaganda and abysmal moral examples, there is also plenty of bullying.

Nylndech · « **Reply #7 on:** May 22, 2012, 01:45:21 PM »

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I would have missed out on an education on being bullied and sɛҳuąƖly abused by classmates if I was home schooled.

You have to ask yourself if you can trust SSPX schools if Bishop Fellay puts some guy like Krah on the board of one.

My community is not wealthy enough to attract the SSPX.

songbird · « **Reply #8 on:** May 22, 2012, 01:59:49 PM »

We home schooled 3 or our 4 children. They just took a GED test and went on. No problem. And they are out in the world doing just fine! One supervises supply in a major hospital and the other drives a rig for a major trucking firm. The other is pursuing RN and continues as a CNA til then.

Vladimir · « **Reply #9 on:** May 22, 2012, 03:12:29 PM »

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Do home-schooled children suffer from any negative discrimination when it comes to college applications?

Is it difficult to keep the children educated in math and science at a level comparable to their public school peers?

What about children that attend private school at traditional chapels?

It would appear that the Ivies took a lot of trads many years ago, compared to Novus Ordoites, probably because they wanted to subvert Trad-dom.

I know orientals highly esteem prestigious universities. Traditional Catholics, however, shouldn't worry about it.

Judging by the results of a simple history test Harvard students took a few years back, they're not getting a solid education:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2007-09-17-history-test_N.htm

That is hardly surprising. (The quality of education at the famous universities)

Famous universities seem to be good sources of highly specialized areas of study, much of which seems to be unavailable elsewhere. Unfortunately, it seems like the people in charge are more concerned with having you jump through their loops before you can study what you want.

I guess related to the question is how do you give your children a good education (home-schooled) if you aren't good in certain areas, like math? Hire tutors? Online courses?

CathMomof7 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 22, 2012, 04:11:29 PM »

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Do home-schooled children suffer from any negative discrimination when it comes to college applications?

We have a 10th grader who is looking at colleges. We have been to visit a few places, private Catholic and non-Catholic and public. All of them are very open to homeschool students. Some of them, in fact, voice a preference for homeschooled students because they have better study skills than their public school counterparts. Homeschool students are often very goal oriented and are more well rounded.

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Is it difficult to keep the children educated in math and science at a level comparable to their public school peers?

Our 5th grader is one year ahead of his peers in math and he is studying science that he is actually interested in. When we pulled him out of public school in 3rd grade, he was still doing simple addition problems. He was being timed in math problems, so he could do them really fast in order to pass their tests. However, he was incredibly bored. When we started homeschool, we enrolled him in a math grade ahead and he caught on really quickly. This year he is doing well. He will probably be ready for algebra by 7th grade.

On the other hand, our 10th grader, who was in public school through 9th grade has struggled with geometry since day one---it's taken him over a year to grasp the concepts. And this was an "advanced" math student in high school.

We have had the same experience with science. Our 10th grader struggled through chemistry. He probably couldn't tell you anything useful about it. Yet he was a "super" public school student.

Our 5th grader chose his curriculum this year---flying creatures---he has learned so much. A lot more than he would have learned in public school.

Science in public school is pure propaganda so your children will be convinced of evolution and the non-superiority of humans.

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What about children that attend private school at traditional chapels?

I don't know any children, personally, who attend an SSPX school. I do know of a few families who have moved to be near the SSPX school for their children. However, I do not know what their education is like.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #11 on:** May 22, 2012, 04:39:47 PM »

Quote from: Vladimir

I guess related to the question is how do you give your children a good education (home-schooled) if you aren't good in certain areas, like math? Hire tutors? Online courses?

Yes, I think so. An ideal situation is when homeschool parents collaborate.

Diego · « **Reply #12 on:** May 22, 2012, 04:49:07 PM »

It is difficult to match the laboratory resources of institutional schooling. In every other respect homeschooling far exceeds institutional schooling.

Vladimir · « **Reply #13 on:** May 22, 2012, 05:12:43 PM »

Thank you everyone for your feedback.

It seems like homeschooling could be very efficient if the proper resources were available - a substantial library in the home and being close to a large public library system. Through in a piano and a big backyard or a public park and it looks like the children could get a good education and be well-rounded.

I guess another question is - how does this work if the father is the one with more education and is more qualified to teach the children than the mother and the father has to work all day? Teach in the evenings?

Nadir · « **Reply #14 on:** May 22, 2012, 06:03:53 PM »

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It is difficult to match the laboratory resources of institutional schooling.

This is a very narrow of perspective on science. No offense Diego, but the whole world, and smaller parts of it, is a science laboratory... the kitchen, the garden, the farmyard, the night sky......