My school wants to do the Carnival on a Lenten Day. Previously, they wanted to hold it at the 15th, which is after Ash Wednesday, too, but they postponed it! How can I make them to remove it from that day?

Pelly, you are in the New Order?  Get out!  The savior is not you, Christ is the Savior and He you serve.  The Giant is to big that only God will take care of it is His Time. Pray the Rosary!

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Trying to get them to remove it from that day probably won't work. If you don't wish to participate, you don't have to do you?

Prior to Vatican II such a thing would have been unthinkable.  

In old villages throughout Europe, the butcher shop would sell out all its
inventory through Mardi Gras, and then close, remaining closed until
the day after Easter Sunday.  They were always closed on Sunday.

It's hard to imagine living in a culture like that, but it was very supportive
of living the Catholic Faith.  

Any school that would plan on a festival during Lent has something wrong
at the top level..  If you have a pastor, he's the one to talk to.  If no pastor,
then the school principal needs to hear from you.  

If you do not make the effort to communicate face-to-face with the one
who is making the decision or allowing it to happen, then they could say,
"Nobody had a word to say in opposition to the plan."  

So give them the word, they're probably waiting to hear --- FROM YOU!

My school wants to do the Carnival on a Lenten Day. Previously, they wanted to hold it at the 15th, which is after Ash Wednesday, too, but they postponed it! How can I make them to remove it from that day?

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Pelly, you are in the New Order?  Get out!  The savior is not you, Christ is the Savior and He you serve.  The Giant is to big that only God will take care of it is His Time. Pray the Rosary!

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I'm not a NO anymore, I've became a Trad.

I had a dream and couldn't sleep until I made this post...........

I want to encourage you, Pelly, for being observant and vigilant.  How many
of your friends have noticed this contradiction?  It takes courage and fortitude
to speak up, and it takes wisdom to know when to be courageous.  

The very word, carnival, comes from carne, which is meat. Ask any Latino.  
You know, carne asada, chili con carne, carne vale ("carnival").  

Some think the Church removed the prohibition for eating meat on Friday,
but actually it's not "removed."  The pope made an unwise pronouncement that
was misunderstood -- and deliberately misunderstood by many who thereby
bring condemnation upon themselves.  What he said was that you could substitute
some other EQUIVALENT penance on Friday, equivalent to abstinence.  Well,
think about it:  if not eating meat is "really, really hard to do" for someone, then
they would have to find another penance that is AT LEAST "really, really hard to
do," that is, maybe "really, really, REALLY hard to do," in order to follow what the
pope UNWISELY said.  

Because if you would substitute another penance and it's less than "equivalent,"
then you would have made an INADEQUATE substitution, that is, you would have
failed.

Following unwise advice is a bad idea in the first place.  

But taking bad advice and only following the weak part, the easy part, and
ignoring the tough part, the hard part, is worse than unwise.  It is very foolish.

Have you ever heard of a Catholic doing a "really, really hard" penance to take
the place of not eating meat on Friday?  I haven't.  Nor have I heard of a pope
or a bishop teaching on this topic.  Have you?  They hardly ever mention
anything about doing penances at all!

Examples:

I want to have a piece of beef jerky today, Friday;  so to substitute for the
penance of abstinence (which would be to not eat the beef jerky) I am willing
to walk up the center aisle of the church on my knees, without stopping, while
I pray my Rosary, to make it really, really hard.

I want to eat a Turkey submarine sandwich for lunch today, Friday;  so to make
up for NOT having meat on Friday, I'm willing to flog myself with a "discipline"
(that's a stick with a short thong of leather tied to the end, usually with a big
knot at the end of the thong) for 15 continuous minutes to make it "really,
really hard," without stopping.  If I have a second piece of jerky, I'll make
a second trip up the aisle, then.

I want to have a Spencer steak and eggs for breakfast today, Friday;  so to
substitute for NOT having meat on Friday, I'm going to take an ice bath before
breakfast, then after breakfast, to make it "really, really hard," I'm going to run
5 miles down public sidewalks reciting the Salve Regina and the St. Michael
prayer in Latin out loud, repeatedly.

Or, I want to have a bowl of Beef Barley Soup today, Friday;  so to compensate
for the penance of NOT having meat today, I'm going to volunteer at the
Protestant soup kitchen where they're serving this soup today, Friday, and I'll
do a double shift to make it really, really hard, which means 4 hours of KP duty.

Oh, and I won't be able to explain to the Protestants that I'm doing it to make
up for eating meat on Friday because they deny the merit of works and they
would then argue with me for 4 hours while I do KP duty.  Hmmm... now, maybe
that's not a bad idea!

Are those things, or anything like it, common practice among Catholics who
say it's okay now to eat meat on Friday?  Has there been any list of recommended
penances disseminated for the Faithful over the past 20 or 30 years?  As I recall,
there were a few right after the unwise announcement from the pope, but the
practice of listing suggested penances fell away pretty quickly, beginning with
the Newmass, from which all mention of penitential works has been expunged.
And that was a deliberate corruption.

@Neil Obstat They're holding a Carnival celebration in Lenten time. My class is mostly NO.

Now I'm confused.  Do you go to a public school, a NO Catholic school or a Traditional school?

Marsha

If you attend a public school then there is no need to get worked up over it. Just stay away and tell your Catholic friends why you are staying away.

As far as I know, religion classes are reinstalled this very year into the Hungarian school system, much like in other nations with favourable concordats. Do you have a religion teacher or is there any priest/chaplain available at your school? Even if you cannot change anything, it might be a good idea to speak with him.