Author Topic: women in orchestras  (Read 8989 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Telesphorus

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12714
  • Reputation: +7/-12
  • Gender: Male
women in orchestras
« Reply #90 on: October 29, 2011, 08:27:36 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Another point - when I was without internet access for sometime, I assumed Raoul would want to chat again as we had been doing before, as friends.  He was the one who decided to cut off communication - it wasn't because I was insisting he agree with me, but because I refused to agree with him.  Apparently he can't handle it if his friends don't give into him about his views on their personal life.

    Offline Telesphorus

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 12714
    • Reputation: +7/-12
    • Gender: Male
    women in orchestras
    « Reply #91 on: October 29, 2011, 08:44:15 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • I've been avoiding quoting Raoul but I think it's important to point out this line in particular:

    Quote
    What happened was, in our last private conversation, Tele had the gall to blame me for talking about his situation at the SSPX church on CathInfo, when he was the one ranting incoherently about it and I just tried to get the story straight.

    However, later, he added insult by injury by going on Fisheaters and wallowing in the whole situation even more. So much for me being the one to spread his misfortunes around, which was already ridiculous in the first place. I made a passing comment about this on CI saying he was "seeking attention" which he was. But that, on top of the fact that he probably saw I lost respect for him and had become wary of him, made him blow up.

    It is around this time I also stopped entirely believing his side of the story, because I see now how he is, which is best described as narcissistic or "ox-like."


    Now we can see here really how Raoul's broken thought processes work.  He didn't just say he was trying to get my story straight - (he certainly could have asked for that in a non-adversarial way) he said he was trying find out if I was a creeper.  Then he says I added "insult to injury" to him by going on fisheaters.  I added insult and injury to him by going to post on fisheaters?  That is a bizarre statement. Let me point out right now I wasn't the one who brought up my situation on fisheaters.  It was the other posters who started viciously attacking me on it, so much so that posters like Iuvenalis stopped posting there.  Augustine Baker was banned because of that thread.  I'm not surprised that Raoul, raised in this society and in LA, is acting just like the fisheaters were acting, albeit in a somewhat less crass (but even more obsessive) way.

    So because of these perceived "insults" to him. (posting on FE is an insult to him?), he stopped believing my accounting of facts, that I simply recalled from memory and honestly recorded here.  This shows that his opinions have no basis in facts, only in what he wants to believe at the moment.

    As for the rest of Raoul's post about the girl, how supposedly I wanted to make her more domestic than she was at the time (she was very hearth and home, nature and country life oriented at that time), as though being a talented violinist somehow she is no longer a simple girl, no longer suited for being the wife of an intelligent man who sees her role is in the home?  

    I think this gets to the crux of the issue.  When Raoul found out how special the girl was, that is when he decided, like so many other people decided, that someone like me was beneath someone like her.  And I think there is some jealousy inherent in that.  I think there is clearly an obsession on the part of Raoul in relating these stories.

    And it is quite disgusting how Raoul is playing the gallery about how I'm supposedly "authoritarian" or "macho" because I simply believe about the role of women what Catholic men in Catholic societies believed in the past.


    Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 8213
    • Reputation: +7164/-1
    • Gender: Male
    women in orchestras
    « Reply #92 on: October 29, 2011, 08:51:44 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Quote from: Telesphorus
    I think we're finally now seeing who is really the narcissist here.


    Indeed, Mr. Big shot. And it's not Raoul.

    Quote
    And now he confesses it's because I pointed out that he and Spiritus Sanctus were responsible in large part for adding fuel to the fire in the "courting 18 year old virgins" thread.


    Tele, I know you have me on ignore but I have a feeling you read my posts sometimes anyway. Do you want me to start a thread saying I am sorry for my behavior on the "courting 18 year old virgins" thread? Because I have said time and time again that my behavior on that thread, not only towards you but to several other people, was totally un-acceptable. So again, I can start a thread saying I am sorry for that if need be.

    Offline Telesphorus

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 12714
    • Reputation: +7/-12
    • Gender: Male
    women in orchestras
    « Reply #93 on: October 29, 2011, 08:57:30 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Do you realize SS that you are doing exactly the same thing you did before?

    You're calling me a narcissist in so many words but then saying you're sorry at the same time?  I don't think you figured anything out.

    Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 8213
    • Reputation: +7164/-1
    • Gender: Male
    women in orchestras
    « Reply #94 on: October 29, 2011, 08:59:09 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • My point was that Raoul is not a narcissist. But you are right actually, I am contradicting myself. Sorry, I shouldn't have said that.

    What I was apologizing for though was my behavior in March. I would appreciate it if we could "forgive and forget" and move on. So I await your response.


    Offline Telesphorus

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 12714
    • Reputation: +7/-12
    • Gender: Male
    women in orchestras
    « Reply #95 on: October 29, 2011, 09:01:22 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • I will forget about it when I'm convinced you're not acting that way anymore.

    Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 8213
    • Reputation: +7164/-1
    • Gender: Male
    women in orchestras
    « Reply #96 on: October 29, 2011, 09:02:17 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • So am I required to start an apology thread, or just leave it alone?

    Offline Telesphorus

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 12714
    • Reputation: +7/-12
    • Gender: Male
    women in orchestras
    « Reply #97 on: October 29, 2011, 09:03:16 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • I already said what I hope you'll do.  Stop acting the way you've been acting.


    Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 8213
    • Reputation: +7164/-1
    • Gender: Male
    women in orchestras
    « Reply #98 on: October 29, 2011, 09:04:45 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Very well...

    Offline Telesphorus

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 12714
    • Reputation: +7/-12
    • Gender: Male
    women in orchestras
    « Reply #99 on: October 29, 2011, 10:02:28 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • One more thing: all these people in these families that have accused me of lying or being delusional know I'm not lying and that I'm not making anything up.

    They know that because when they asked me about my work/money situation I told them point blank what it was.  They know the reason they treat me like dirt is because of that situation, not because I'm some sneaky cad.

    Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 8213
    • Reputation: +7164/-1
    • Gender: Male
    women in orchestras
    « Reply #100 on: October 29, 2011, 11:34:31 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Care to elaborate Tele? That made no sense.


     

    Sitemap 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16