Author Topic: Harlot Outreach Initiative? A good idea or a silly dangerous thing? (Read 7923 times)

Tiffany · « **Reply #60 on:** April 08, 2016, 09:02:52 AM »

You need to call a traditional priest and stay away from females for the time being. You should be ashamed to even mention these ideas. A young man who is sincerely trying to lead an honorable life would do his best to run in other direction from loose women. Looking for approval online from trads shows you are playing a game.

Desmond · « **Reply #61 on:** April 08, 2016, 02:30:39 PM »

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You need to call a traditional priest and stay away from females for the time being.

I am staying away from females for the time being (except seeing my whorefriend from time to time in broad daylight).

The problem is by working, ordering coffee, buying cigarettes, going to the supermaket, going to shops , going to the hospital even, whatever, etc. I necessarily come in contact with females. Which are all whores obviously.

I do not go out at night, do not frequent shady places, barely have any friend of either gender (as they are all degenerates), barely talk to anyone if I can avoid it.

It's not like I pick up this wymins in bars, or online or whatever.
It's just people I meet. In fact I met several others since my OP, in which I just listed 3 off the top of my head.

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You should be ashamed to even mention these ideas.

Why should I be ashamed, miss?

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A young man who is sincerely trying to lead an honorable life would do his best to run in other direction from loose women.

No! That's actually wrong. A young man sincerely trying to lead an honorable life should seclude himself like a hermit, as it is impossible to function in society without meeting constantly whores.

What's really dangerous is "normal" women, who may not look or act like whores, but actually are. They might give you the illusion of a romantic pure prospect but really, they expect fornication (and lots of it) pretty soon after you try to court them.

In fact, by my personal experience, a woman will only go out with you if she expects fornication at some point in the future. If you make clear you're not interested but only seek a platonic relationship or friendship, they just won't bother... no matter how attractive/funny/charming you are.

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Looking for approval online from trads shows you are playing a game.

Yes! It's a really neat game.
It's called being a failure of a man in your early thirties alone with your 2 cats, friendless, almost pennyless, single and losing your mind day by day.

You should try it.

OHCA · « **Reply #62 on:** April 10, 2016, 07:27:36 AM »

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These soiled doves need prayers and a person to check in on them every so often. The person checking in should not be an unaccompanied man between the ages of 19-36 unless he is a priest with a male and female escort.

It might even be better to offer Rosary intentions for them and keep your distance. A sentimental mind can sometimes fall in love with an attractive women of ill repute.

Between the ages of 19-36? How about 14 and up? Or maybe 14-80? I'm almost 44 and recognize the imprudence it would be for me--now and the foreseeable future.

OHCA · « **Reply #63 on:** April 10, 2016, 07:36:58 AM »

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Yes! It's a really neat game.
It's called being a failure of a man in your early thirties alone with your 2 cats, friendless, almost pennyless, single and losing your mind day by day.

You should try it.

And, by and by, the "Harlot Outreach Initiative" is understood...

OHCA · « **Reply #64 on:** April 10, 2016, 07:46:02 AM »

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Ok, I'm sorry to say but I need to go out with actual, somewhat normal, women, no matter the risk, because it's unacceptable for me that the highlight of my day, so to speak, is seeing this whore and spending time with her.

It's degrading and quite sad.

You don't say...

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On a negative note, I realised she's totally lewd... I just didn't notice it till very recently because female physical lures have little effect on me. But thinking back on all the time spent together I am appalled, really.

What did she do (or wear or say)?

OHCA · « **Reply #65 on:** April 10, 2016, 07:52:45 AM »

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...Desmond and his girls....

Desmond · « **Reply #66 on:** April 10, 2016, 01:48:15 PM »

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Yes! It's a really neat game.
It's called being a failure of a man in your early thirties alone with your 2 cats, friendless, almost pennyless, single and losing your mind day by day.

You should try it.

And, by and by, the "Harlot Outreach Initiative" is understood...

What do you mean?

I was open about it since the OP.

The premise was: "since I cannot (or even reasonably hope to) have a normal romantic life... I might try to do some good."

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You don't say...

Well the only difference with an average girl is the other would give you the illusion of normality.

I'm quite hopeful about some 19 year old I met though, may be she's not yet much of a whore (yea, right).

In any case, my good friend is getting NO-married Sept.17th, so by that date I need to have a proper companion.

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What did she do (or wear or say)?

Nothing much really, mostly using (funny really) excuses to put herself in slightly erotic situations.

Such as the old "pretending to reach something right behind you", "I dropped my keys", "my back hurts", "do you want to see my tatoos?", "you've got something on your hair", "do you prefer this shirt like this, or this?" etc. etc.
In hindsight, it's quite cute.

It's just I'm so ~~pure minded~~ ~~noble-hearted~~ oblivious I didn't notice even.

OHCA · « **Reply #67 on:** April 10, 2016, 02:42:53 PM »

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The premise was: "since I cannot (or even reasonably hope to) have a normal romantic life... I might try to do some good."

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Well the only difference with an average girl is the other would give you the illusion of normality.

I'm quite hopeful about some 19 year old I met though, may be she's not yet much of a whore (yea, right).

In any case, my good friend is getting NO-married Sept.17th, so by that date I need to have a proper companion.

Humanity is rotten--the modern world is rotten to the core. But Folks here have apparently faired fairly well in finding like-minded husbands and wives for the most part. I doubt hardly any of us were in much of a better situation than you at the outset for doing so either.

The way you "might try to do some good" is to either take up the religious (become a priest or monk) or take on and conquer some small piece of the world without being of it by clinging to the teachings of the Church, the Holy Sacraments, prayer, etc.--you will find that girl someday--maybe she will be the moral person she needs to be or maybe you can change her--but GOD will PUT her there for you without you stooping into dens of whores and temptation doing things YOUR way. But He may not do it by Sept 17 and the earth won't stop spinning even if you go to that wedding without a trophy of success of your own agenda swinging from your arm.

Croixalist · « **Reply #68 on:** April 10, 2016, 02:54:54 PM »

Let me explain why this is a bad idea wrapped up in a lie enclosed within a self deception.

Self lie #1: You're a single straight Catholic man who's "given up" on finding someone.

The truth is that you haven't given up at all and you're desperate for female attention. By using this false pretense, you're seeking permission to have access to certain women you know you wouldn't have an excuse to be around in the first place.

Self lie #2: You consider yourself impervious to temptations against impurity even though you have no vocation.

No straight man is immune to the these temptations and we must use every means available to us in order to lessen them or avoid them altogether. There is no buffer between you and these "whores", who by the way, are in the flower of their youth and physical beauty. You might be fooling yourself, but the rest of us can see right through it!

Self lie #3: This pseudo harlot outreach will do some good.

All I've seen come out of this is an excuse for you to ogle young women who literally don't know any better, while getting a false sense of moral superiority over them. It's clear you don't have the gift of conversion or they'd be at Church already. Minute by minute, day by day it is they who are converting you, my friend! Therefore, we can safely conclude that you are preparing your soul for mortal sin while your fallen powers of reasoning go into overdrive in order to explain what you're doing is perfectly ok. It isn't and you will find yourself cut off from the sacraments before too long.

If it's any comfort to you, you're not the first lonely single guy to have this idea. Eric GaJєωski's got quite the Adult Industry Conversion Chat line going!

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We had to give you an example of how your prayers are helping in this apostolate and I try to remind everyone to continue to pray for me of course but also the apostolate in general because I do have other ministries going on which tie into to this and one of which I started up again here over the past uh week or so maybe even two weeks uh in dealing with ah, women in the adult industry which is my main ministry you could say. So anyone that's you know, dancing, escorting, bikini models, international models, pornographic actresses, I mean anything in that lewd realm that uh pertains to the flesh, immodesty uh I go and literally reach out via phone via email and offer! You know I let them know, these are some serious times here you can't be living in habitual mortal sin and think you're going to make it through these times.

Ah you know, and ultimately and so over the course of this past few weeks, of course very few respond back positively at least they're warned uh, so that they can't hold to the ignorance argument before God. They certainly have been warned. But uh, it was very touching to know that one particular young lady I've talked to twice now for a total of 7 hours total, that's how interested she is in becoming Catholic, and you know, understanding, you know, the Catholic faith but then also having a pretty solid foundation of knowing about the Illuminati and how the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr works so it makes sense to her. She came from a Baptist background but it makes very much sense to her how all these pieces fit in she understands now how revolution is-is-is not a Christian thing.

Point being is-is you know she had told me per our last conversation, I'm actually going to speak to her tonight uh after this radio show, that she is intent on joining the resistance and she has every intent of leaving her way of life with what she's been doing and you now, formally becoming Catholic. So I-I've got her reading the Catechism now and you know again we-we've spent about 7 hours total this past week in two different conversations were in I can cover uh Catholic doctrine and and get to help her understand those things that she needs because in the end again without that proper norm of faith it is impossible to please God.

"Get Out Of The Van While You Still Can" (14:59-17:22)

Results: Zero (0) Catholic conversions this far!

Mon Sedd · « **Reply #69 on:** April 10, 2016, 05:21:19 PM »

It won't let me reply-

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Let me explain why this is a bad idea wrapped up in a lie enclosed within a self deception.

I thank you in advance for the lengthy, well reasoned post, even though I have the suspicion it might be superficial and/or rash.

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Self lie #1: You're a single straight Catholic man who's "given up" on finding someone.

The truth is that you haven't given up at all and

I never said I've given up on finding someone. What I said is it is statistically very unlikely and the thought of what I rationally have to admit is very depressing.

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you're desperate for female attention.

I'm desperate for companionship, not female attention. I don't want to come off as prideful or vain, but I get enough "attention" from normal wymins already.
Oddly, this one whorefriend of mine doesn't seem that interested on the other hand.
And her attention wouldn't even be that flattering since she seems to think obese 46 year old men are "fascinating". She is a nymphomaniac after all.

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By using this false pretense, you're seeking permission to have access to certain women you know you wouldn't have an excuse to be around in the first place.

Well that's true in a way, I won't deny it.

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Self lie #2: You consider yourself impervious to temptations against impurity even though you have no vocation.

I never said I am or consider myself to be impervious. Just that I'm much less vulnerable to feminine lures than most.

In fact I have resisted to dozens of such lustful situation, possibly 99% of the times, over the years.

I did only know 3 (three) women in 30 years. Out of.. I don't know, a hundred or so?

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No straight man is immune to the these temptations and we must use every means available to us in order to lessen them or avoid them altogether.

I agree with you there. Of course I personally find much more innocuous to spend some afternoon time with this one lady than even spending 5 minutes chitchatting some woman I just met who's giving me the eye.
Or even looking back at some young passerby thing, evoking me fantasies of romantic escapades by the sea or a lifetime together.

ROMANTIC temptations are much more harder to resist, at least for me.

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There is no buffer between you and these "whores",

You mean except restraint, logic and Faith (and in the case of this one, aesthetics, etiquette, class, age).

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who by the way, are in the flower of their youth and physical beauty.

No she ain't. Number #2 is not beautiful, and also she has a bit of a mustache.
Frankly, I wouldn't even theoretically fool around with her if I were a heathen.

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You might be fooling yourself, but the rest of us can see right through it!

I can see you all arrive at the same conclusions.. I'll give you that.

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Self lie #3: This pseudo harlot outreach will do some good.

This is true. "Some" good will come out of it, in fact it already has.

She stopped using curse words for the most part. Also might not get yet another tattoo.

Mon Sedd · « **Reply #70 on:** April 10, 2016, 05:23:46 PM »

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Self lie #3: This pseudo harlot outreach will do some good.

This is true. "Some" good will come out of it, in fact it already has.

She stopped using curse words for the most part. Also might not get yet another tattoo.

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All I've seen come out of this is an excuse for you to ogle young women who literally don't know any better,

There's very little to "ogle", but it is true she doesn't know any better.

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while getting a false sense of moral superiority over them.

I don't, in fact my hearth breaks thinking about such women and I get sad.

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It's clear you don't have the gift of conversion or they'd be at Church already.

Really... I wager you to pick some random person and work him through all the labyrinth of deception and indoctrination towards Catholic Traditionalism. You have a month (I've been at it for a few days only, but nevermind).
What kind of argument is this.

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Minute by minute, day by day it is they who are converting you, my friend! Therefore, we can safely conclude that you are preparing your soul for mortal sin

No they're not. Plus, I've been in contact, and continously am, with sin all my life. In my family, at school, at work, at the post office, wherever.
There's no escape.

Mon Sedd · « **Reply #71 on:** April 10, 2016, 05:25:38 PM »

And if I were to commit some fornication it would be with someone I deem worthy of sharing my life together with.. like the other times (I'm not sure why now I would do different, if anything, the opposite) but hopefully it doesn't come to that.

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while your fallen powers of reasoning go into overdrive in order to explain what you're doing is perfectly ok.

Well it sure seems my powers of reasoning are waning day by day. Also my mental health.

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It isn't and you will find yourself cut off from the sacraments before too long.

What do you mean by this? I am cut off from the sacraments already.

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If it's any comfort to you, you're not the first lonely single guy to have this idea. Eric GaJєωski's got quite the Adult Industry Conversion Chat line going!

Ok lemme reiterate: these are not porn actresses nor prostitutes. They are slightly above average in their sl*ttyness girls.

Croixalist · « **Reply #72 on:** April 10, 2016, 06:26:32 PM »

Desmond (name change already?), I'm glad you admitted to some of it. To further elaborate on some of my comments:

By not having a "gift for conversions", I mean you're just like the rest of us. As such, you need to stop putting yourself in the way of temptation. You have to learn how to pick your spots!

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And if I were to commit some fornication it would be with someone I deem worthy of sharing my life together with.

That's a careless attitude which will result in the loss of your soul if it hasn't already.

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What do you mean by this? I am cut off from the sacraments already.

Well then if your looking for additional ways to be cut off, add this to the list! Priorities, man!

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They are slightly above average in their sl*ttyness girls.

A distinction without a difference in your case.

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I'm desperate for companionship, not female attention.

See above. This is why you're spending all this time with them and not say, feeding the homeless or something. Right!

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She stopped using curse words for the most part. Also might not get yet another tattoo.

So you've trained them to strain the gnat and swallow the camel. Golf clap?

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Well it sure seems my powers of reasoning are waning day by day. Also my mental health.

If you really consider your mental health to be waning, you need to stop pretending like you are in a position to help these people. It might be your brain trying to tell you to stop lying! Get to the sacraments and stop wasting your time posting here until you take care of business.

Mon Sedd · « **Reply #73 on:** April 10, 2016, 06:34:20 PM »

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Humanity is rotten--the modern world is rotten to the core.

Yes they are.

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But Folks here have apparently faired fairly well in finding like-minded husbands and wives for the most part.

Well they seem to have found them because they live/have access to traditional catholic communities.

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I doubt hardly any of us were in much of a better situation than you at the outset for doing so either.

Well I don't know about that. I am not a young man anymore. Plus I am very uncertain about my future, professional or otherwise.

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The way you "might try to do some good" is to either take up the religious (become a priest or monk) or take on and conquer some small piece of the world without being of it by clinging to the teachings of the Church, the Holy Sacraments, prayer, etc.--

Ok I was with you till you said this:

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you will find that girl someday--maybe she will be the moral person she needs to be or maybe you can change her--but GOD will PUT her there for you

How do you possibly know that? God has known what my choices and life would be since before the beginning of Time. How could you or I or anyone possibly hope to know who and how God put for me anywhere?

He might know I will actually end up marrying a whore for the better of us both (unlikely, but still, hypothetical). Or maybe I'm just destined to wake up tomorrow and die of heart attack. Who knows.

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without you stooping into dens of whores and temptation

What the piffle? You mean the cafè where she works or the adjacent parking lot...?

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doing things YOUR way.

As opposed to...?

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But He may not do it by Sept 17 and the earth won't stop spinning even if you go to that wedding without a trophy of success of your own agenda swinging from your arm.

First of all, do you have to be such a cynic all the time?

What trophy of what success?

I just hope to have found someone so that I can share a joyful moment with her and at the same time partake in my friend's wondrous day of happyness with a serene mind. Additionally she too (my friend) would rejoice in seeing me with a dignifying companion at such an important occasion.

That is all.

And hopefully this hypothetical girl is NOT the result of my "success" in converting whores, because I DO NOT want to marry one, or even a defiled woman or a tattooed or pierced one or anything really. Imagine that!
Me marrying a whore. Disgusting.

On top of that... going alone to a wedding? Do you know that NO/agnostic weddings are those yes, a den of depravity and sin?

All single women there are hopped up on emotion and anguish for their condition and can't wait to fornicate with the first individual they find suitable.

Mon Sedd · « **Reply #74 on:** April 10, 2016, 06:54:43 PM »

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Desmond (name change already?), I'm glad you admitted to some of it.

Actually it was all out in the open since the beginning, on both my threads.
I did not change name I was banned, see the "technical difficulties" thread.

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To further elaborate on some of my comments:

By not having a "gift for conversions", I mean you're just like the rest of us. As such, you need to stop putting yourself in the way of temptation. You have to learn how to pick your spots!

Ok, conversion was never really on the table. What I said, if I remember correctly was "ultimately, possibly conversion". The primary aim was actual saving.

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That's a careless attitude which will result in the loss of your soul if it hasn't already.

Yes that is why I do not do that, and why that was only an hypothetical scenario in response to everyone saying I will sin for sure for some reason.

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A distinction without a difference in your case.

But one that everybody has failed to make.

The sooner you realise nearly every single female you see on the streets/workplace/supermarket/post office and why not, possibly Church everyday is actually a whore, the better.

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See above. This is why you're spending all this time with them and not say, feeding the homeless or something. Right!

Of course that's why, it's no mystery. I have 0 interest in feeding the homeless.
On the contrary I need to spend time with girls.

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So you've trained them to strain the gnat and swallow the camel. Golf clap?

Why, thank you. And it's ONE girl. For now at least. Stop saying "them".

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If you really consider your mental health to be waning, you need to stop pretending like you are in a position to help these people.

Even drunk I'm still more capable to operate than many! Ah!
On a serious note: it's hard to tell, seeing how my own failing mental faculties do the examination on themselves.

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It might be your brain trying to tell you to stop lying!

I do not lie (for the most part). Or, it might be I cannot bare to live alone and forsaken after 7+ years of pseudo-marriage. It's all quite confusing and new to me.

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Get to the sacraments and stop wasting your time posting here until you take care of business.

What if I get to the Sacraments? Next day or the day after that I'm gonna sin again and need to wait days/weeks for the long trip to the SSPX chapel or wherever. Assuming the priest there is even validly ordained, I confess correctly, etc.