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Offline Maria Regina

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Re: hardly anyone should get married
« Reply #45 on: March 25, 2018, 01:18:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: graceseeker on March 19, 2018, 12:50:28 PM
    The Word says it is better to stay single bc married people are concerned w/ pleasing spouse and not so focused on pleasing God
    If men and women were to marry to help each other become saints, as typified in the Eastern Catholic Mystery of Matrimony, then truly marriage would holy as it should be, and then a new domestic church would be born.

    When I met my husband to be, I noticed that he was religious. This made me happy. He was a possibility.

    When I talked with him at length, and he shared his desire to convert to Catholicism, this made me extremely happy, and my love for him grew.

    When we took our first steps as man and wife while singing the song of Isaiah, I knew that our path was to be one of martyrdom, that we were to die to ourselves so that we could rise with Christ, and I was in tears of joy.

    Our goal now is to help our son save his soul so he can lead his wife and children to Christ, so that we can all be together in Heaven. As husband and wife, we pray together daily that we will all be saved through the intercession of the Most Holy Theotokos.
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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #46 on: March 25, 2018, 09:43:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on March 19, 2018, 08:11:30 PM
    Yes, it IS an American thing.  As I said, no choice in the matter!
    I am American and it has not been my thing....what a sad thread.  
    Let us face reality...until women realize that the greatest job they can have is wife and motherhood, nothing changes.  Not only the greatest job but the very hardest of jobs...raising children is a least desired position today, yet so crucial to raising up children of character and dignity. 
    Too many would rather the easy glamorous way out..a childless life.  Indulging in every whim..but the whims lessen and the glamour fades along with age, and what are they left with?  To die alone and unrewarded, unfulfilled, and to have done nothing for the betterment of humanity...sad...depressing...lonesome end.  
    No, I would advise marriage and devotion and family centering...do not abandon parents, parents do not abandon children...I despise the selfish baby boomer generation who have thrown their children out of the nest and selfishly designated their mid to later years as “our time”....nothing is more rewarding than remaining a close family and helping one another through life...multi-generational families will succeed, all others will not.
     Yes, the baby boomers are, for the most part, left to themselves to gaze at the giant redwoods, dreaming of their youth, wondering why their children have abandoned them as they slowly fade away...having contributed nothing to the world, to humanity, to anything at all...and with a complete and utter disregard for their own progeny to come.
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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #47 on: March 27, 2018, 04:37:39 PM »
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    • Quote from: Maria Regina on March 25, 2018, 01:18:03 PM
    If men and women were to marry to help each other become saints, as typified in the Eastern Catholic Mystery of Matrimony, then truly marriage would holy as it should be, and then a new domestic church would be born.

    When I met my husband to be, I noticed that he was religious. This made me happy. He was a possibility.

    When I talked with him at length, and he shared his desire to convert to Catholicism, this made me extremely happy, and my love for him grew.

    When we took our first steps as man and wife while singing the song of Isaiah, I knew that our path was to be one of martyrdom, that we were to die to ourselves so that we could rise with Christ, and I was in tears of joy.

    Our goal now is to help our son save his soul so he can lead his wife and children to Christ, so that we can all be together in Heaven. As husband and wife, we pray together daily that we will all be saved through the intercession of the Most Holy Theotokos.
    great. But St Paul says it is better not to marry and I believe him. Maybe you are one of the very very few who should marry. Only God knows. But I just know how things go in this antichrist world, so... Relationships are just so awful these days.. but then maybe it always has been that way, human nature being what it is and all
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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #48 on: March 27, 2018, 04:39:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: bernadette on March 25, 2018, 09:43:18 PM
    I am American and it has not been my thing....what a sad thread.  
    Let us face reality...until women realize that the greatest job they can have is wife and motherhood, nothing changes.  Not only the greatest job but the very hardest of jobs...raising children is a least desired position today, yet so crucial to raising up children of character and dignity.

    if parents do not plan on disciplining their children and raising them in the Church, they have no business having them. They are just providing Hell with more members
    that sound radical and extreme to those in the world, but who cares what they think? And somewhere deep inside, they know at least some of The Truth - just don't want to live by it
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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #49 on: March 29, 2018, 11:59:13 PM »
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    • Marriage, like the Church as a Whole, is an instrument of Gods grace that perfects the flawed, a hospital for sinners as it where as opposed to country club for saints.  It is a sacrament that over time and cooperation with it, takes the flawed and perfects it over time.  As the sculptor takes a piece of stone and carves it into the creation of his minds eye, God uses the sacraments to make us as he ultimately sees us.

    Stop being so cynical.  As my daughter used to say when she was young and cute,  "Pray!"
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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #50 on: April 03, 2018, 02:35:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: clarkaim on March 29, 2018, 11:59:13 PM
    Marriage, like the Church as a Whole, is an instrument of Gods grace that perfects the flawed, a hospital for sinners as it where as opposed to country club for saints.  It is a sacrament that over time and cooperation with it, takes the flawed and perfects it over time.  As the sculptor takes a piece of stone and carves it into the creation of his minds eye, God uses the sacraments to make us as he ultimately sees us.

    Stop being so cynical.  
    you call it cynical
    i call it reality
    and facingreality
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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #51 on: February 24, 2019, 02:50:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: TxTrad on March 18, 2018, 10:57:08 AM
    Brother Bernard of the silver city, NM, monastery: "wouldn't it be great if every one went into religious vocations?" 
    Me: "but then there would be no more people."
    Not necessarily. What prevents God from creating more humans* as He did Adam, out of the slime of the earth?
    *(if He deems creating more humans necessary, which it seems it isn't, as the world is sufficiently populated, hence why polygamy is no longer legal in the New Law)
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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #52 on: February 24, 2019, 02:54:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: poche on March 19, 2018, 05:22:45 AM
    hardly anyone should get married

    That was what Jesus' disciples said when he explained to them about the disolubility of marriage.
    God determines the % of people who should marry.
    However, it's true that marriage is not "expedient" (συμφέρει) (Mt. 19:10).
    (cf. 1Cor 6:12: "All things are lawful to me: but all things are not expedient.")
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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #53 on: February 26, 2019, 07:24:30 AM »
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    • Perhaps it's best that you not marry because you would be a poor spouse. Don't project that on to the rest of the world.
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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #54 on: February 26, 2019, 10:09:39 PM »
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    • Graceseeker you sound like you are on the verge of losing your Faith!

    You have to put more trust in God and His Holy Mother!

    God sends His grace to both the good and the bad, to all of these corrupt people!

    All this sin need never affect you if you keep seeking Grace.
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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #55 on: February 27, 2019, 02:43:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: graceseeker on March 17, 2018, 01:25:34 PM
    I have not met anyone who was worthy.. plenty I THOUGHT were worthy... until I found out who the person really is (is not)...
    Is Christ not sufficient for you?
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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #56 on: February 27, 2019, 06:39:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: graceseeker on March 17, 2018, 01:25:34 PM
    hardly anyone should get married

    We can see by the divorce rate how true that is

    But then there are my experiences in life

    I have not met anyone who was worthy.. plenty I THOUGHT were worthy... until I found out who the person really is (is not)...

    so why all these marriages going on? I think people see unkosher things in the other just as I do.. but they marry anyway... NOT good.. (depending on how unkosher..)
    The Op says:
    I have not met anyone who was worthy.
    Does this mean not worthy of HIMSELF?
    Someone so extraordinarily arrogant should not get married.
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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #57 on: February 27, 2019, 06:55:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on February 27, 2019, 06:39:49 PM
    The Op says:
    I have not met anyone who was worthy.
    Does this mean not worthy of HIMSELF?
    Someone so extraordinarily arrogant should not get married.
    The OP of this thread is a woman and made the post almost a year ago.  She has since been banned.
    https://www.cathinfo.com/computers-and-technology/graceseeker-banned/msg606794/#msg606794
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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #58 on: March 08, 2019, 07:21:37 PM »
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    • I married late in life. (age 30) That made it hard for me to have the flexibility of habits that the joining of two people need. It has been 25 years now. It is still work. But, I believe that it is God's Work, so I persevere. Very few have ever been called straight to the Monastery or Convent. Marriage is for the rest of us. God's commandment was to "Go Forth and Multiply".
    So we do. Sometimes we don't do it well. Sometimes it is easy and fun. However it is what we are called to do.
    I'm glad I married. I'd be lonely and alone if I had not, and in my case, my wife (and St Maximillian Kolbe) are the cause of my conversion to the faith. So without marriage, my soul would have been truly lost. For this alone, I am forever grateful.
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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #59 on: August 27, 2019, 05:10:38 PM »
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    • Women who do no want to be a stay at home mom and having their children as their number one priority, SHOULD NOT MARRY.

    MEN who dont want to financially protect his wife so she could stay at home, SHOULD NOT MARRY

    There are plenty of "trad" women working outside and they do not have financial problems. Sometimes encouraged by modern "trad" husbands who want to travel and have a good living standard.

    This kind of people should be banned by priests...

    I do know a lot of inmature "trads" who believe they are trads because they go to TLM or are against abortion, but agree to leave children at daycare system and live like a modern family.





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