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Offline Alexandria

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Re: hardly anyone should get married
« Reply #60 on: August 28, 2019, 11:40:02 AM »
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  • You'll find a few in the US, but they won't be American and probably not Catholic, either.  They will be the adult daughters of Asians, Arabs, Indians, Africans for whom culture dictates an unmarried daughter lives with her parents.  
    Personally, I'm glad I never married or had children.  I see what has happened to those of my age group, 55-65, all divorced, raising their grandkids of assorted unmarried children with multiple partners, all have lost the Faith, most follow no religion whatsoever, a chaotic, charityless mess.  I moved out at 18, female or not, it was expected. Wanted when young to be a teaching or medical sister, but by then, the convents were empty, just nuns in pantsuits with bad hair, into occultish trash or silly political causes.  I'm nearly 60, too late for sisterhood, fair health, working long hours to survive.  I'll be satisfied to die at any time, so long as I'm in a state of grace.  
    Marriage isn't for everyone, and many who are married are married to the wrong person or in the wrong vocation.    They never bothered to pray for guidance or they just told Our Lord what they thought they should do and went ahead and did it.
    I envy you being unattached. 


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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #61 on: August 28, 2019, 01:24:07 PM »
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  • I'm nearly 60, too late for sisterhood
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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #62 on: August 28, 2019, 06:39:10 PM »
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  • I believe a 60 yo who is alone and has no family (or hid family isn't catholic) shoulf join a religious order. Maybe with other 60 yo or mature women.

    The world is very dangerous to live without other christians.

    Real catholics should live together according to their state of life.


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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #63 on: August 29, 2019, 10:34:51 AM »
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  • I married an Asian pagan. She by the grace of God converted to the Catholic faith. She has been praying the Rosary and attending Mass even before she got baptized.

    Asians are less corrupted and more conservative, they are less prone to divorce. Why don't you try Asians?? Of course you also need to pray in the meantime.

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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #64 on: August 29, 2019, 11:18:28 PM »
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  • I believe a 60 yo who is alone and has no family (or hid family isn't catholic) shoulf join a religious order. Maybe with other 60 yo or mature women.

    The world is very dangerous to live without other christians.

    Real catholics should live together according to their state of life.
    It sounds good, but where is this religious order that takes old lady novices?  I’ve found one, in France.  You need to speak fluent French and be debt free.  It’s novus ordo, for me, an automatic deal breaker.  


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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #65 on: August 29, 2019, 11:22:39 PM »
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    It’s (convent) novus ordo, for me, an automatic deal breaker.

    Chances are it's a nest of lesbians, too.
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    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #66 on: August 29, 2019, 11:24:35 PM »
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  • Seraphina, maybe you can start a teaching order of sisters.  
    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #67 on: August 30, 2019, 12:39:04 AM »
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  • Seraphina, maybe you can start a teaching order of sisters.  
    Not really possible. One needs a foundation, a superior—-I will not operate without one, money, and sisters.  One also must have the requisite administrative, financial, and management skills, things for which I have zero aptitude.  
    There’s also the very serious problem of dealing with the civil authorities and of finding suitable students from truly Catholic homes.  Although I am myself, a teacher, if I had children of my own, I would not ever send them to school, not even to a Catholic school.  The influence of the few students from bad homes almost always ends up dragging the others down.  When parents ask me which school I recommend, I always tell them to homeschool if at all possible.
    I do not have the authority or physical health and stamina necessary to start a school.  
    Have you heard of the problems in New York and in the city in particular?  If Cuomo gets his way, the public school administrations will, come September 30, be entering private and religious schools to determine if they are providing a “substantially equivalent curriculum” to that of the public schools.  If they determine it is not, the state may shut the school and notify parents within 24 hours to make alternate arrangements for their children.  The MSM has said nothing about this “law” concocted illegally by executive order.  In NYC, like the state of NY, vaccines are mandatory in all schools for students and staff except by medical exemption.  In the city, the exemption must be from a NYC DOE physician or from another physician who submits to the city physicians.  They must be M.D.’s, not P.A.s, chiropractors, naturopaths, (not legal in NYS).  The city is working to add HPV to the list of mandatory vaccines for children, age 9 and up.  That will also include adults.  My school has already lost eight very fine large families due to the vaccine issue.  If HPV is added, it could very well result in our school closing down after operating since 1948.  People like me will get no compensation.  None of the younger teachers, although mainly Protestant, will accept the HPV shot, and the majority of parents, even if they accept some of the other shots, will consent to HPV.  It’s based upon the premise that children become sɛҳuąƖly active at 10-12 years of age!  Personally, I’m not concerned with vaccines since I’m old enough to have had the diseases, and the HPV is ineffective in post-menopausal women.  
    It has come to the tipping point where one must choose between God and a job. We Catholics already know the majority will compromise.  I’ve come to the place in life where, although I don’t like it, I’d rather be homeless and found deceased somewhere than forfeit Heaven.  I hope God has other plans, but if He doesn’t, it’s okay.  Maybe some other soul can be saved in the process.


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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #68 on: August 30, 2019, 05:13:11 AM »
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  • Wow, Seraphina, that's awful.

    I can see various ways that "the world" is putting things in place to have it be, "Accept this...or no that".  More and more evidence every day towards an anti-Catholic culture.   

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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #69 on: August 30, 2019, 05:31:52 AM »
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  • I believe a 60 yo who is alone and has no family (or hid family isn't catholic) shoulf join a religious order. Maybe with other 60 yo or mature women.

    The world is very dangerous to live without other christians.

    Real catholics should live together according to their state of life.

    Maybe.  Not everyone is called to that life, though.  Some of the early saints were called to be hermits.  Now, the age limit for joining a religious order is largely a practical one.  Ideally, someone should be allowed to join at any age ... except that the costs of healthcare increase with age, and so it would be hard for an order to absorb a lot of older people as the grow closer to the end of their lives.

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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #70 on: August 30, 2019, 11:05:49 AM »
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    Ideally, someone should be allowed to join at any age ... except that the costs of healthcare increase with age, and so it would be hard for an order to absorb a lot of older people as the grow closer to the end of their lives.

    That shouldn't stop religious orders from accepting older people, nor should it stop an old single person from joining. If a person in the order faces a serious health issue, they should offer the pain from lack of medical assistance up to the Lord. Both order and prospective candidate should have that understanding before anyone joins.
    "I'm running things now, and I'll do everything it takes to destroy the enemies of God. Now, you join me, and I promise you, you'll never have to worry about whether you're doing the right thing or the wrong thing, because we will do the only thing." ~ Joseph Croix de Fer


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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #71 on: August 30, 2019, 05:14:26 PM »
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  • It sounds good, but where is this religious order that takes old lady novices?  I’ve found one, in France.  You need to speak fluent French and be debt free.  It’s novus ordo, for me, an automatic deal breaker.  
    Dear Serafina
    Maybe God is calling you to start a new order, I don't now.
    But just think about it and talk with a good traditional priest.
    Maybe in the past it wasn't common to enter to a religious order at 60 years old. But times have changed, catholics are isolated, the world is very dangerous than it was in the past.
    I have read that there were widowers who took vows at mature age. Not the ideal for a single woman, but we don't live in 1940 when one could know at 18 if there was a religious vocation (people were raised catholic, attended Mass since childhood, it was more easy to know it).
    Maybe Im wrong, but I believe catholics should live with other catholics.

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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #72 on: August 30, 2019, 05:16:59 PM »
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  • Seraphina, maybe you can start a teaching order of sisters.  
    :applause:
    Great idea!
    A lot of married women are troubled because they don't know a trad school to send their children...
     A religious teaching order could also offer home schooling counseling via internet.

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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #73 on: August 30, 2019, 05:47:43 PM »
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  • That shouldn't stop religious orders from accepting older people, nor should it stop an old single person from joining. If a person in the order faces a serious health issue, they should offer the pain from lack of medical assistance up to the Lord. Both order and prospective candidate should have that understanding before anyone joins.
    Copy your response out and read it when you are old and in pain.
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: hardly anyone should get married
    « Reply #74 on: August 30, 2019, 05:48:56 PM »
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  • :applause:
    Great idea!
    A lot of married women are troubled because they don't know a trad school to send their children...
     A religious teaching order could also offer home schooling counseling via internet.
    Are you for real?  :fryingpan: Do you really expect a bunch of older women to start a religious order, then a school and have the energy and physical stamina to operate both that would tax much younger people?
    These women would be at the age when serious medical issues are showing up.
    There is good reason for convents not accepting older women.
    What the trad world really needs is a truly Catholic retirement home set up by younger catholics.
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]