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Offline Croix de Fer

Re: hardly anyone should get married
« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2018, 11:53:36 PM »

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"But if a man has no wife, but a concubine instead of a wife, let him not be refused communion; only let him be content to be united with one woman, whether wife or concubine" (Can. "Is qui", dist. xxxiv; Mansi, III, col. 1001).
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Offline Cantarella

Re: hardly anyone should get married
« Reply #41 on: March 25, 2018, 12:49:00 AM »
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Yet history proves that people generally turn to God when "all hell breaks loose".

I do not think so because this would contradict the words of Our Lord Jesus Christ in John 15:16:

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You have not chosen me: but I have chosen you; and have appointed you, that you should go, and should bring forth fruit; and your fruit should remain: that whatsoever you shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

I don't really think that people turn to God in such circuмstances, if anything, most people die being final impenitent regardless of their miserable circuмstances in life.
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Offline Cantarella

Re: hardly anyone should get married
« Reply #42 on: March 25, 2018, 01:01:25 AM »
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So, as we both agree that things are bad morally, it follows that an immoral nation will self-destruct, again, which we both agree with.

It will self-destruct because these people will NOT reproduce. Winners will get to reproduce. Feminists, and losers will not reproduce, which is good. (of course, there are some who will not reproduce in present time and not only for that fact will be losers, - including religious vocations); but in general, I have high hopes for the next generation, because the depraved ones are for the most part, a dying generation via birth control, abortion, sodomy, single motherhood households, etc.
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Offline Cantarella

Re: hardly anyone should get married
« Reply #43 on: March 25, 2018, 01:28:01 AM »
This reminded me of something Fr. Feeney said about reproduction in one of his writings. This applies to all large families.

Excerpt from Madonna in the Kitchen by Fr. Feeney:

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It is amazing how Providence sees to it that the simple of heart reproduce their kind in great abundance. Nature is constantly at work sloughing off its skeptics and sophisticates by sterility or self-destruction, and by replenishing the world with those who have a sense of reverence and a sense of humor. It is good that this is so. It is good that the meek possess the land… Katie Boggiano has never heard the reasons advanced for the restriction of families, and would probably not comprehend them if they were explained to her. She knows it is hard enough to be poor and have children. She would think it unbearable to be poor and have none. Fidelity to nature’s laws has left her will unhampered by hesitancies, inhibitions and phobias.

http://catholicism.org/downloads/mancipia-2018_1-2.pdf

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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: hardly anyone should get married
« Reply #44 on: March 25, 2018, 12:33:08 PM »

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You have not chosen me: but I have chosen you; and have appointed you, that you should go, and should bring forth fruit; and your fruit should remain: that whatsoever you shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
This was Our Lord talking to the Apostles, which can also apply to priests/religious.  It has nothing to do with the situation I'm talking about - which is a catastrophe like a Hurricane, or an economic collapse where people are starving, or an earthquake which causes devastation.


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I don't really think that people turn to God in such circuмstances, if anything, most people die being final impenitent regardless of their miserable circuмstances in life.
This is quite the over-generalization.  Certainly there are those who harden their hearts against God in the midst of this (merciful) punishment, but there are many, many, many stories which show that people turn to God when devastation occurs and it deepens their Faith, because God shows them that He is there to help and that He allowed the devastation for a reason.  A great but very, very tiny example of this is the bridge which fell in florida last week.  There were 2-3 people who were quoted as saying that God helped them rescue this person or helped them do something else.  And this circuмstance wasn't even that dire, compared to an earthquake or a flood or something bigger.
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