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Halloween originated in ireland
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  • Cerith Gardiner - published on 10/25/22 - updated on 10/29/25

    Contrary to what you might believe, the origins of this festive occasion derive from our Gaelic brothers and sisters.
    With today being Halloween, it's interesting to look at the origins behind this popular celebration. While many people look at this spooky night as being rooted in American culture (as some of its traditions are), it is in fact partly derived from an ancient Irish tradition called Samhain.

    Samhain was a festival celebrated across Eire to mark the end of the harvest period, and the beginning of the darker half of the year. As a result, the Irish would make bonfires and take part in rituals on the night of October 31. These events were said to connect the spiritual world with the real world for a short moment in time.

    Evil spirits were believed to roam around, and only incantations and strange rituals could prevent them from doing harm. People would actually get disguised to try and fool these spirits into leaving them alone. And the "trick or treating" that our children take part in today is similar to the Irish children of yesteryear dressing up and going door-to-door to gather gifts, fuel for fires, and food that would be contributed to the Samhain feasts.

    During these feasts the souls of loved ones and friends who'd passed away would be invited to join in the festivities, with a place being set at the table for them.

    Along with the joyous feasting, friends might play pranks on each other and blame them on the evil spirits that were roaming around.

    The Church in Ireland Christianized the festival in around the 19th century, but the pranks and the door-to-door collections remained an integral part of the event. And turnips rather than pumpkins would be used to make the jack-o-lanterns we so commonly associate with Halloween.

    The Irish tradition arrives in America

    While in America Halloween wasn't approved of by the more Puritanical society, when the Irish potato famine hit in the 1840s, millions of Irish turned up in America and brought with them their love of Halloween.

    Over time the pranks became tamer, the costumes more elaborate, and the pumpkin became the vegetable of choice for carving lanterns. A tradition called "souling" and baking “soul cakes” in honor of the faithful in various cultures of Europe was also an influence in America, and came from various cultures in Europe.

    Today Halloween has become more commercialized, and the notion of celebrating the end of the harvest period has more or less been ignored. However, what is proving popular among Catholic families is to use the occasion to dress their kids up as favorite saints, or even popes, to go off trick or treating.

    Thankfully, in the Catholic Church we are also able to celebrate All Soul's Day around this time of year, and it provides us with the perfect opportunity to commemorate our faithfully departed.

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    Re: Halloween originated in ireland
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  • Soo if some children come to my door and trick or treat I can give them treats? 
    "Come to me, all you that labour, and are burdened, and I will refresh you." St. Matthew 11:28 


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    Re: Halloween originated in ireland
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  • I ended up giving out these fruit bars lol 
    "Come to me, all you that labour, and are burdened, and I will refresh you." St. Matthew 11:28 

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    Re: Halloween originated in ireland
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    Soo if some children come to my door and trick or treat I can give them treats?

    They do and did last night in Ieland bookofbirds. All 'TRICK OR TREATING.'

    In my story Boyhood Exploits of 1940s and 1950s I wrote,

    Then there was Halloween in the 50s. Every kid in the neighbourhood went out knocking on doors looking for ‘Any apples or nuts.’ There were few sweets or crisps given on that night in those days. At the end of the night one would come home with bags of garden cooking apples and peanuts in their shells. Nobody ever eat more than one or two of each, so Theo my pal and I had thought up another strategy for Halloween. We would not go out until about nine at night and when we were told by the householders that we were too late as all the apples and nuts were gone, we would put our plan into action. We would ask, ‘Well then, ere an old rusty copper in your house you want to get rid of.’ A copper was a penny coin then, 240 in a pound. You could but sweets, ice cream etc. then with a penny. We knew the ‘rusty’ bit would fit in to the scary Halloween atmosphere, so not look like we were just begging for money. It usually worked, trapping the adults into finding some pennies for our bag. Boy, did Red and Theo come out of such Halloweens rich men.

     I can give more stories if any are interested.

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    Re: Halloween originated in ireland
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  • I can give more stories if any are interested.
    Go ahead, there's not enough story telling these days.
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    Re: Halloween originated in ireland
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  • Why not bring back this old Queens, NY tradition instead of Halloween?  
    My parents (RIP) and a few surviving Greatest Generation and Silent Generation people reserved October 31 for a day of fast and abstinence and collected their candy on Halloween. It was prevalent not only in Catholic neighborhoods, but also in Protestant areas. The practice faded out after WWII.