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Offline Pelly

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Going to a Byzantine church
« on: March 16, 2013, 05:24:14 AM »
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  • The traditional church nearby is too far and my Mum is not keen on evening Mass, but I don't like to get up early. Thanks to school I dread morning Mass. The journey to there takes 3 hours. So, I'd like to go to a Byzantine church nearby. But do I commit mortal sin by going to a Byzantine church since they're affilated with the Conciliar Church?


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    « Reply #1 on: March 16, 2013, 01:10:55 PM »
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  • Well, obviously I don't think so, since I go to one pretty much every day.  Shouldn't you be asking your priest this question, however?
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    Going to a Byzantine church
    « Reply #2 on: March 16, 2013, 11:14:49 PM »
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  • One of the things that I like to check, before I go to the Eastern rite, is where the priest studied. If they study in a US modernist seminary, there is no way I would go. Also, I want to know if they were ordained in the new rite, so I check up on the situation before I go. There are some iffy situations out there.

    Our situation here does not make it necessary to go to the other rite anymore, but I have heard some pretty crazy sermons there, not to mention the females being involved in the liturgy, and a few other things.

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    « Reply #3 on: March 17, 2013, 01:11:03 AM »
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  • Going to a byzantine church is A ok as long as its under the Catholic Church. I am ukrainian cathoic myself and our liturgy is byzantine and we are under the One True Church. If you are going to the Orthodox church well that is different. They appear the same on the outside but the theology is way off and thats why they have their own patriarch and are not united under the pope.

    I do believe there are 22 rites in the Roman catholic church (check wikipidia) the byzantine rite is just one of those.

    We are also 3hrs away from church and get to go 3 times per year but get a sspx to come 4 times per year so we average once per month when we do the math.

    Hard times aint it. Reminds me of the catacombs. I love watching Michael Matt (remnant) when he does his little u tube talks with a look alike catacomb envirnment. Tis the world we live in.

    God Bless

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    Going to a Byzantine church
    « Reply #4 on: March 17, 2013, 02:06:24 PM »
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  • Quote from: Mabel
    One of the things that I like to check, before I go to the Eastern rite, is where the priest studied. If they study in a US modernist seminary, there is no way I would go. Also, I want to know if they were ordained in the new rite, so I check up on the situation before I go. There are some iffy situations out there.

    Our situation here does not make it necessary to go to the other rite anymore, but I have heard some pretty crazy sermons there, not to mention the females being involved in the liturgy, and a few other things.


    Um, we don't have a new rite.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    « Reply #5 on: March 17, 2013, 02:07:46 PM »
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    Going to a byzantine church is A ok as long as its under the Catholic Church. I am ukrainian cathoic myself and our liturgy is byzantine and we are under the One True Church. If you are going to the Orthodox church well that is different. They appear the same on the outside but the theology is way off and thats why they have their own patriarch and are not united under the pope.

    I do believe there are 22 rites in the Roman catholic church (check wikipidia) the byzantine rite is just one of those.

    We are also 3hrs away from church and get to go 3 times per year but get a sspx to come 4 times per year so we average once per month when we do the math.

    Hard times aint it. Reminds me of the catacombs. I love watching Michael Matt (remnant) when he does his little u tube talks with a look alike catacomb envirnment. Tis the world we live in.

    God Bless

    Your friendly canadian farmer :farmer:


    I have always assumed from your screen name that you are Coptic.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #6 on: March 17, 2013, 02:20:08 PM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund
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    One of the things that I like to check, before I go to the Eastern rite, is where the priest studied. If they study in a US modernist seminary, there is no way I would go. Also, I want to know if they were ordained in the new rite, so I check up on the situation before I go. There are some iffy situations out there.

    Our situation here does not make it necessary to go to the other rite anymore, but I have heard some pretty crazy sermons there, not to mention the females being involved in the liturgy, and a few other things.


    Um, we don't have a new rite.


    I know, I didn't mean to make it sound another way and I am sorry if you read it that way. I'm just saying there are a few circuмstances (ordinations) that have involved the new "Roman rite" in my dealings with the Eastern rite. I've also been to Eastern rites that are almost entirely like the NO, hugging, handshaking, and even NO hymns!

    Maybe I've only dealt with a few odd situations, and hopefully so. Personally, I love the Eastern rite, I should probably make an effort to expose my kids to it sometime soon.

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    « Reply #7 on: March 17, 2013, 03:18:34 PM »
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  • The Ruthenian Liturgy I attend is like this but in English;

    I'd prefer Old Church Slavonic even if I know very little. Maybe a few words that are close to Polish.



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    « Reply #8 on: March 17, 2013, 07:41:10 PM »
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  • Quote from: Mabel
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    One of the things that I like to check, before I go to the Eastern rite, is where the priest studied. If they study in a US modernist seminary, there is no way I would go. Also, I want to know if they were ordained in the new rite, so I check up on the situation before I go. There are some iffy situations out there.

    Our situation here does not make it necessary to go to the other rite anymore, but I have heard some pretty crazy sermons there, not to mention the females being involved in the liturgy, and a few other things.


    Um, we don't have a new rite.


    I know, I didn't mean to make it sound another way and I am sorry if you read it that way. I'm just saying there are a few circuмstances (ordinations) that have involved the new "Roman rite" in my dealings with the Eastern rite. I've also been to Eastern rites that are almost entirely like the NO, hugging, handshaking, and even NO hymns!

    Maybe I've only dealt with a few odd situations, and hopefully so. Personally, I love the Eastern rite, I should probably make an effort to expose my kids to it sometime soon.


    Oh my goodness!  Thankfully I have never seen that.  
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir