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Offline SkidRowCatholic

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Re: From the White House?
« Reply #15 on: Yesterday at 10:02:35 PM »
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  • So Trump, not being a Catholic, knows exactly what he is doing to bring down the Faithful?  Yet the "Pope" who should know what he is doing, doesn't?  Is that what you just implied?
    Some call Leo Pope, but all the wonderful orthodox things he says about Jesus, Mary, etc. get no attention.

    BUT HE IS THEIR POPE! 

    They ignore him because of his errors.

    Now Trump isn't even Catholic - Why would Catholics who hold Leo Pope show interest in what Trump has to say about the Immaculate Conception but not so much Leo?


    Not only that,

    Trump has multiple "marriages"

    Trump supports the LGIBTOA#WYI people

    Trump is the "Daddy of IVF"

    Trump thinks, "States should regulate abortion and those that have made it illegal have gone to far."

    Trump was buddies with Epstien

    Trump seems to be buddies with Sean Combs

    Trump is owned by the youknowwhos

    Trump is pro pantheism

    Trump is also suspect of ties to Masonry.

    Trump is NOT someone to be trusted to when it comes to religious truth or frankly any truth at all.

    Trump has as many (if not more) errors than Leo. 
    But between the two - it is Leo that should have his writings about Mary shared (please don't) before Trump - especially if you are someone who holds him to be Pope.

    So yes, pray for them both.
    But renounce their errors too.
    They should pitied for their miserable state and vilified for the their corrupt public sins with the hope of warning others off their deceptions and also to induce the sinner to repent.

    This administration should be denounced, not swooned over.

    Nor should one hold his theologically erroneous flattery as some kind of "lovely" finger painting to share with the rest of the class as an object of goodness.

    Ohhhhh....

    Hold on....

    Where is that bucket again :confused:

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    Re: From the White House?
    « Reply #16 on: Yesterday at 10:59:33 PM »
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  • Some call Leo Pope, but all the wonderful orthodox things he says about Jesus, Mary, etc. get no attention.

    BUT HE IS THEIR POPE!

    They ignore him because of his errors.

    Now Trump isn't even Catholic - Why would Catholics who hold Leo Pope show interest in what Trump has to say about the Immaculate Conception but not so much Leo?


    Not only that,

    Trump has multiple "marriages"

    Trump supports the LGIBTOA#WYI people

    Trump is the "Daddy of IVF"

    Trump thinks, "States should regulate abortion and those that have made it illegal have gone to far."

    Trump was buddies with Epstien

    Trump seems to be buddies with Sean Combs

    Trump is owned by the youknowwhos

    Trump is pro pantheism

    Trump is also suspect of ties to Masonry.

    Trump is NOT someone to be trusted to when it comes to religious truth or frankly any truth at all.

    Trump has as many (if not more) errors than Leo.
    But between the two - it is Leo that should have his writings about Mary shared (please don't) before Trump - especially if you are someone who holds him to be Pope.

    So yes, pray for them both.
    But renounce their errors too.
    They should pitied for their miserable state and vilified for the their corrupt public sins with the hope of warning others off their deceptions and also to induce the sinner to repent.

    This administration should be denounced, not swooned over.

    Nor should one hold his theologically erroneous flattery as some kind of "lovely" finger painting to share with the rest of the class as an object of goodness.

    Ohhhhh....

    Hold on....

    Where is that bucket again :confused:
    My point, and I know no one really cares, is that if you focus on the demonic things of this world you play right into the hands of demons.  Is that what you want?  All people do these days is point out everyone's faults.  And guess what you get when you do that?  People looking for buckets.....   I am just tired of the ideas that everything is leading to Hell.  God is here. God is allowing these things to happen, and all people can point out is the power of demons.  I will just continue to look for Hope and you can continue to cast stones.
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    Re: From the White House?
    « Reply #17 on: Today at 05:24:52 AM »
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  • Now Trump isn't even Catholic - Why would Catholics who hold Leo Pope show interest in what Trump has to say about the Immaculate Conception but not so much Leo?
    Around 1970 in I think it was The Remnant news paper, there was a very lengthy article beautifully written all about the Blessed Sacrament, what it is, some of It's history, miracles, tradition, devotions etc.,  and also all about how the conciliar church disregarded all of that and now comparatively was bent on disrespecting it. The whole article took up over 2 full pages in what was a full size newspaper and was full of wonderfully explained Catholic truths and how the Blessed Sacrament lost it's place in the Catholic Church.

    It was written by a Presbyterian minister who said that he was saddened to see what happened to the Catholic Church, essentially overnight.

    So whoever actually wrote that piece deserves credit because it was beautiful, regardless that some theological points were wrong. 
     


    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: From the White House?
    « Reply #18 on: Today at 06:35:12 AM »
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  • A LITTLE HISTORY OF THE ASTRONOMER CASSINI
    Domenico Cassini’s talent as a surveyor was also well known. In 1657 he was asked by Pope Alexander VII to resolve a dispute regarding the flow of the River Reno between Bologna and Ferrara that was causing flooding. For the next seven years Domenico Cassini was occupied with similar work around the Papal States, spending only a little of his time at astronomical studies. While working for Alexander VII, Cassini sent a letter to the Jesuit Riccioli recommending the Immaculate Conception be celebrated as a special feast day. This happened 200 years later in 1854 when Pope Pius IX made it a dogma.

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    Re: From the White House?
    « Reply #19 on: Today at 08:34:55 AM »
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  • My point, and I know no one really cares, is that if you focus on the demonic things of this world you play right into the hands of demons.  Is that what you want?  All people do these days is point out everyone's faults.  And guess what you get when you do that?  People looking for buckets.....  I am just tired of the ideas that everything is leading to Hell.  God is here. God is allowing these things to happen, and all people can point out is the power of demons.  I will just continue to look for Hope and you can continue to cast stones.
    i agree with you. The Trump is saviour Q people are crazy but it is still not right to demonise a person completely, we will be judged after our death and should apply the mercy to others that we wish to be applied to us. I think there will be surprises in the next life, the most unlikely people may get to Heaven and the most unexpected people will end up in Hell. We should try to focus on the good in everyone as much as is possible. Obviously this doesn’t mean being an idiot and endangering our families, but view everyone through the lens of mercy. 


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    Re: From the White House?
    « Reply #20 on: Today at 08:59:51 AM »
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  • What a load of garbage.

    If it was Leo saying it you would be all over him.

    With this insane and twisted logic, you should be reading whatever Leo says and making the same defense, "Oh, will we just throw out all that lovely stuff he said because of one bad thing!"

    You messed up and thought the pervert, adulterer, heretic, most-likely-Mason, and seemingly unrepentant President had done something "beautiful".

    Then you get called out and rather than - reflect on the enormity of his PUBLIC crimes and now his PUBLIC ERROR AGAINST THE INCARNATION - you triple down like narnarboboheads and use some genial-snowflake-sentimentality to cover your gaff cloaking it in a false pretense of chwarity. :facepalm:

    But, I suppose you would have to if you voted for him - to sooth you troubled conscience...

    Don't misunderstand, what makes me sick is all of this pro-Trump swooning and crooning, "oh how beautiful, he said some lovely things about Mary and never mind that he said Jesus was not made man until he was born." 🤮


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    Re: From the White House?
    « Reply #21 on: Today at 10:24:52 AM »
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  • What a load of garbage.

    If it was Leo saying it you would be all over him.

    With this insane and twisted logic, you should be reading whatever Leo says and making the same defense, "Oh, will we just throw out all that lovely stuff he said because of one bad thing!"

    You messed up and thought the pervert, adulterer, heretic, most-likely-Mason, and seemingly unrepentant President had done something "beautiful".

    Then you get called out and rather than - reflect on the enormity of his PUBLIC crimes and now his PUBLIC ERROR AGAINST THE INCARNATION - you triple down like narnarboboheads and use some genial-snowflake-sentimentality to cover your gaff cloaking it in a false pretense of chwarity. :facepalm:

    But, I suppose you would have to if you voted for him - to sooth you troubled conscience...

    Don't misunderstand, what makes me sick is all of this pro-Trump swooning and crooning, "oh how beautiful, he said some lovely things about Mary and never mind that he said Jesus was not made man until he was born." 🤮
    I am not American but I’d imagine that the Americans who voted for Trump yet openly criticise Pope Leo are viewing them both through a different lens. Leo is actually supposed to be Catholic (as the head of the Catholic Church 😀). Trump has never professed to be Catholic or even Christian yet has done more to save unborn babies than any other president and does seem to be making some statements and gestures favourable to Catholicism. It’s clear he’s a deeply flawed individual but so are the majority of world leaders. Moving in the circles he has, he has likely had more temptations thrown in his way than Mose of us. In any case, praying for his conversion and acknowledging the good he has done is perfectly justified. I would also take a similar attitude to Pope Leo as the pressure on him from the Curia set up by his predecessor is likely very great… we need to pray for him too. 

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    Re: From the White House?
    « Reply #22 on: Today at 10:36:41 AM »
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  • What a load of garbage.

    If it was Leo saying it you would be all over him.

    With this insane and twisted logic, you should be reading whatever Leo says and making the same defense, "Oh, will we just throw out all that lovely stuff he said because of one bad thing!"

    You messed up and thought the pervert, adulterer, heretic, most-likely-Mason, and seemingly unrepentant President had done something "beautiful".

    Then you get called out and rather than - reflect on the enormity of his PUBLIC crimes and now his PUBLIC ERROR AGAINST THE INCARNATION - you triple down like narnarboboheads and use some genial-snowflake-sentimentality to cover your gaff cloaking it in a false pretense of chwarity. :facepalm:

    But, I suppose you would have to if you voted for him - to sooth you troubled conscience...

    Don't misunderstand, what makes me sick is all of this pro-Trump swooning and crooning, "oh how beautiful, he said some lovely things about Mary and never mind that he said Jesus was not made man until he was born." 🤮
    I get everything your saying skid row. I’m am uneducated lackey that’s been calling this stuff out for years since 9/11. I’ve taken nothing but grief for it and could never understand how intelligent bright people could not see the bigger picture. Now we got The same guy caught up in the Epstein scandal, the same guy working with Palantir to enslave and imprison humanity, the same billionaire free mason from nyc throws a bone to his dogs and their tail wags. When all the wars are stopped, pedophiles locked up, surveillance state is reeled in, the constitution is honored, maybe then I will appreciate the bone when the master tosses it to me. Untill then I want the USA out of the Catholic Church completely. The 5i 👁️ intelligence agencies are the reason our church is more concerned with queers and global warming than it is with our God and the scriptures. It’s all made possible by ignoring it for the sake of receiving a bone once in a while. Donald should read the constitution, according to judge Napalitano he never has. This was revealed to the judge when he did an interview for the Supreme Court seat. We have a president of the USA who’s never read the constitution and people have no other argument for his validation other than “ he’s better than Hillary “ “ he’s better than Biden” congratulations! 🍾 he was offered to you as a choice while owned and operated by the same people!!!  If you think djt owns all of those Bible and has actually read one your kidding yourself. Your only argument is “ killary would have never done that, Biden would have never done that, Obamination would have never done that”  exactly. Good cop bad cop is working perfectly on us. 

    meanwhile the government grows the people shrink and the domination continues right into your pews. If you think the government has nothing to do with Norvos ordos  “the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr”you aren’t paying attention! 


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    Re: From the White House?
    « Reply #23 on: Today at 10:46:15 AM »
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  • has done more to save unborn babies than any other president
    We will excuse your ignorance because you are not from this country.

    https://catholicreview.org/trump-touts-ivf-mandate-but-mulls-religious-exemption-in-ewtn-interview/

    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/267273/catholic-bishops-criticize-trumps-ivf-expansion-every-life-is-sacred-and-loved-by-god







    Trump has actually done more to expand abortion through IVF than any president before and more babies are murdered using IVF than surgical means.

    People don't seem to understand what my issue is.

    I suppose the fault lies with me...

    It is the hypocrisy of those who claim Trump has done a good thing when in actuality he did NOTHING of the sort and actually committed an evil by depriving Christ Jesus the honor due to His Sacred Humanity at the Incarnation.

    Those who think of Leo as Pope should pay attention to what he says about Mary NOT what Trump says.

    But they despise Leo for his heresy so they pay no mind to what he says.

    They should view Trump in a similar light, because of his enormous public crimes and sins. His not being Catholic does not mean we should whitewash his crimes or heresies.

    Trump is just as much a heretic (if not more) as Leo. 

    People who think Leo is the Pope think he should know better.

    They are being stupid.

    He was BORN AND BRED A MODERNIST, it is all he has ever known. He is a product of the Novus Ordo church - why should he "know better".

    So again, sure pray for them.

    But the only reason people are defending him and thumbing their nose at me is because I called out their colossal gaff by posting the NCR article and showing them their ugly hypocrisy.


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    Re: From the White House?
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  • meanwhile the government grows the people shrink and the domination continues right into your pews. If you think the government has nothing to do with Norvos ordos  “the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr”you aren’t paying attention!

    Those arguing that Leo and Trump are like apples and oranges and should not be compared to each other in faith is - FALSE. 

    They are two sides of the same coin. 

    nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr government + nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr church.

    They both embrace the ecuмenical religion birthed from Vatican II.

    Operation Gladio in the Vatican much... 


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    Re: From the White House?
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  • Like it or not the ortho bros are connecting these dots better than we are!





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    Re: From the White House?
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  • What a load of garbage.

    If it was Leo saying it you would be all over him.

    With this insane and twisted logic, you should be reading whatever Leo says and making the same defense, "Oh, will we just throw out all that lovely stuff he said because of one bad thing!"

    You messed up and thought the pervert, adulterer, heretic, most-likely-Mason, and seemingly unrepentant President had done something "beautiful".

    Then you get called out and rather than - reflect on the enormity of his PUBLIC crimes and now his PUBLIC ERROR AGAINST THE INCARNATION - you triple down like narnarboboheads and use some genial-snowflake-sentimentality to cover your gaff cloaking it in a false pretense of chwarity. :facepalm:

    But, I suppose you would have to if you voted for him - to sooth you troubled conscience...

    Don't misunderstand, what makes me sick is all of this pro-Trump swooning and crooning, "oh how beautiful, he said some lovely things about Mary and never mind that he said Jesus was not made man until he was born." 🤮
    You haven't been here long have you.  I have no secret agenda. The question of the "Pope" is a complicated one.  I live by this principle.

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    36 Master, which is the greatest commandment in the law?  37 Jesus said to him: Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind.  38 This is the greatest and the first commandment.  39 And the second is like to this: Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.  40 On these two commandments dependeth the whole law and the prophets.
    I am not swooning over Trump.  I am pointing out that something from the White House, a very political influential place in the world, gave Honor to the Immaculate Conception with pre Vatican 2 information.  If "Pope" Leo threw out Vatican 2 and became a True Catholic, then I would say something favorable about the "Pope."


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    Re: From the White House?
    « Reply #27 on: Today at 01:58:38 PM »
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  • Telling people the truth is charity.

    If you really endeavor to live up to that commandment, then don't cover for a baby-killing-Christ denier. 

    Telling people that, "God became man when Mary gave birth to a son, Jesus," is not to give, "Honor to the Immaculate Conception with pre Vatican 2 information" .

    What "pre-Vatican 2 information" says, "God became man when Mary gave birth to a son, Jesus."?

    So, while your intentions may have been 100% good, your application falls short, NOT because of you, but because of your chosen subject (Trump).

    He cannot honor the Blessed Virgin while denigrating Her Son. 

    It may have even been a unintentional error, but even, then God would not allow this enormous enemy of truth and justice to speak smoothly about his Mother without having him put his golden-toed shoe in his mouth and colossally fail at his attempt to placate liberal Catholics into thinking, "oh how wonderful, see he honors Mary like us - maybe he is close to converting..."



    If "Pope" Leo threw out Vatican 2 and became a True Catholic, then I would say something favorable about the "Pope."
    Thank you for proving my point back to me.

    You DO NOT listen to Leo because HE IS NOT CATHOLIC.

    Why then listen to Trump and swoon/share when he spews Christological error.

    Well, You didn't did you? No.

    You thought he DID say something truly good.

    But in fact it was not, and NCR pointed this out.

    I shared it.

    And now rather than just remain silent, or agree it was mistake, you are attempting to justifying yourself to me.

    Don't bother.

    I could care less.

    You seem harmless and well intentioned. 

    It isn't me that you need to be justified towards in anything. 

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    Re: From the White House?
    « Reply #28 on: Today at 02:17:02 PM »
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  • Maybe you should get your story straight.  I never looked at this as a Trump thing. 

    Someone else made it that. 

    From my perspective, I think you have made a glimmer of goodness ugly.  If all glimmers are snuffed out, then when will Truth shine?

    Truth and Goodness converts people, not anger and wrath.  It is charity to correct errors, but that energy should have been directed to the White House.  Pointing out others faults to publicly complain about them is not Charity.  Or to publicly shame people is not Charity either.
    Fatti Maschii, Parole Femine

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    Re: From the White House?
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  • You haven't been here long have you.  I have no secret agenda. The question of the "Pope" is a complicated one.  I live by this principle.
    I am not swooning over Trump.  I am pointing out that something from the White House, a very political influential place in the world, gave Honor to the Immaculate Conception with pre Vatican 2 information.  If "Pope" Leo threw out Vatican 2 and became a True Catholic, then I would say something favorable about the "Pope."
    Grey that’s the same way the lying jerk hooked us all. Right now he’s loosing our support in droves if it was not politically expedient right now,  as the analytics guided him he would not have let that come out. Don’t forget Peter theil’s boy J.D Vance is Opus Dei. What kills me is how well these tactics work.  Know them by their fruits!