This was interesting 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/2025/12/presidential-message-on-the-feast-of-the-immaculate-conception/

Especially since it talks about things that are mostly pre V2 stuff.

This was interesting

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/2025/12/presidential-message-on-the-feast-of-the-immaculate-conception/

Especially since it talks about things that are mostly pre V2 stuff.

I have a feeling dwindling support from Catholics made it necessary to toss us a bone. I hate to be a pessimist but as they  build and consolidate the technocratic machine around us…… I can’t help it. I’m worried they are going to use the Vatican to consolidate all the religions. This is why the pope has become the new water carrier for the green agenda. The green angle is huge and affects everything from manufacturing down to our light switches in our home. They are going to push all of this invasive tech to save the earth planet and anyone who disagrees hates the earth and becomes and enemy of all life on earth 🙄 I think people underestimate the governments seriousness on this issue. The u.n is all about this sustainability agenda 2030 now. Agenda 21 no one believed but they accomplished all of their goals and are moving on to the next phase and the Vatican seems to be playing a major role in it. 1 world government 1 world religion. 

This was interesting

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/2025/12/presidential-message-on-the-feast-of-the-immaculate-conception/

Especially since it talks about things that are mostly pre V2 stuff.

That was beautiful.

That was beautiful.

Yes, it certainly was.

How did all the "wise ones" on CI (who commented on this) miss this Christological error, but the Judaism-loving Novus Ordites caught it

Unless they think that this error is "beautiful"...

https://www.ncregister.com/commentaries/editorial-white-house-december-8-message

"But the Dec. 8 message also included an unfortunate error with respect to the moment the Son of God took on our humanity and commenced his earthly life as Jesus Christ.

According to the presidential message celebrating the Virgin Mary’s own conception without any stain of original sin, “God became man when Mary gave birth to a son, Jesus, who would go on to offer his life on the Cross for the redemption of sins and the salvation of the world” [emphasis added].

That’s not correct. The Son of God joined his divine nature with his human nature at the Incarnation — the moment of Jesus’ own conception in Mary’s womb at the Annunciation — just as every human life commences at conception. So God had already been man for nine full months when Mary gave birth to Jesus in a Bethlehem manger on Christmas Day."

I guess we just have to focus on the one bad thing in the speech. (Probably just human error and not a nefarious plot.) It was probably not some statement about when life begins like the NCR made it.  Now the devil will get attention and the good that God might have wanted us to see, dissipates into oblivion.

It is an error about the Incarnation - not just some accident.

Even if one still held to something like delayed ensoulment, it would still be a monstrous error.

It isn't beautiful - it is a Christological insult wrapped in a flowery speech about Mary.

Which, actually makes sense if he was trying to curry favor with "Catholics", but he doesn't have the faith so he let a monster slip out and no one here who read it even blinked.

Remember who you are dealing with.

"I'm the Daddy of IVF" - pro abort Trump.

So in that sense, his "accidental" error takes on a bit of a different angle...

I will give credit where credit is due.

NCR are a bunch of Novus Ordite bought schlemiels, but once in awhile the get something right.

But, "No, no it was probably just his ghostwriter and/or just a harmless mistake and now NCR has ruined everything!"

Simple point, the man many of you think is Pope says wonderful flowerly things about Mary, Jesus, the saints, and everything else you love all the time. But you could give a crap less what he has to say and no one opines about the "beauty" of what Leo just said.

You detest Leo for his adherence to Vatican II and all the other errors even while you think of him as Pope.

Now, I think we can all agree that most everyone here believes Trump is the actual President of the U.S.

I think we can all agree that he is not Catholic.

I think we can all agree he is pro-abort/IVF.

But he posts some drivel like this on his webpage and everyone croons, "b-e-a-u-t-i-f-u-l, "lovely", "how nice", etc. while he is spreading a Christological error!

Someone pass me the bucket...

It is an error about the Incarnation - not just some accident.

Even if one still held to something like delayed ensoulment, it would still be a monstrous error.

It isn't beautiful - it is a Christological insult wrapped in a flowery speech about Mary.

Which, actually makes sense if he was trying to curry favor with "Catholics", but he doesn't have the faith so he let a monster slip out and no one here who read it even blinked.

Remember who you are dealing with.

"I'm the Daddy of IVF" - pro abort Trump.

So in that sense, his "accidental" error takes on a bit of a different angle...

I will give credit where credit is due.

NCR are a bunch of Novus Ordite bought schlemiels, but once in awhile the get something right.

But, "No, no it was probably just his ghostwriter and/or just a harmless mistake and now NCR has ruined everything!"

Simple point, the man many of you think is Pope says wonderful flowerly things about Mary, Jesus, the saints, and everything else you love all the time. But you could give a crap less what he has to say and no one opines about the "beauty" of what Leo just said.

You detest Leo for his adherence to Vatican II and all the other errors even while you think of him as Pope.

Now, I think we can all agree that most everyone here believes Trump is the actual President of the U.S.

I think we can all agree that he is not Catholic.

I think we can all agree he is pro-abort/IVF.

But he posts some drivel like this on his webpage and everyone croons, "b-e-a-u-t-i-f-u-l, "lovely", "how nice", etc. while he is spreading a Christological error!

Someone pass me the bucket...

So Trump, not being a Catholic, knows exactly what he is doing to bring down the Faithful?  Yet the "Pope" who should know what he is doing, doesn't?  Is that what you just implied?