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« on: August 21, 2012, 09:44:14 PM »
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  • I was doing a little research on education policy and I came upon this juicy little tidbit:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Compulsory_Education_Act

    Oregon Compulsory Education Act
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    The Compulsory Education Act or Oregon School Law was a 1922 law in the U.S. state of Oregon that required school age children to attend only public schools. The United States Supreme Court later struck down the law as unconstitutional.

    Background

    In 1922, the Masonic Grand Lodge of Oregon sponsored a bill to require all school-age children to attend public schools. With support also of the state Ku Klux Klan and 1922 Democratic gubernatorial candidate Walter M. Pierce, the Compulsory Education Law was passed by a vote of 115,506 to 103,685. Its primary purpose was to shut down Catholic schools in Oregon, but it also affected other private and military schools. It was challenged in court and struck down by the United States Supreme Court Pierce v. Society of Sisters (1925) before it went into effect.

    The law, which was officially called the Compulsory Education Act and unofficially became known as the Oregon School Law, did not just require that children between the ages of eight and sixteen had to attend school; it required that they attend only public schools. By prohibiting children from attending private or parochial schools, the state thus forced such schools to close.

    Outraged Catholics organized locally and nationally for the right to send their children to Catholic schools. In a 1925 decision, the United States Supreme Court declared the Oregon School Law unconstitutional in a ruling that that has been called "the Magna Carta of the parochial school system." In the ruling, the Court asserted that "the child is not the mere creature of the state" and settled once and for all the question of whether or not private schools had a right to exist in America.

    Pope Pius XI, in 1929, explicitly referenced this Supreme Court case in his encyclical Divini illius magistri[1] on Catholic education. He quoted this part of the case, which says:

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    The fundamental theory of liberty upon which all governments in this Union repose excludes any general power of the State to standardize its children by forcing them to accept instruction from public teachers only. The child is not the mere creature of the State; those who nurture him and direct his destiny have the right coupled with the high duty, to recognize, and prepare him for additional duties.

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    I have printed the encyclical and will read it tonight.

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    « Reply #1 on: August 21, 2012, 09:49:56 PM »
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  • It's been said that every time a new public school opens, a Mason is there for the ceremony.  I haven't been able to verify this but I tend to believe it.
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    « Reply #2 on: August 21, 2012, 10:22:35 PM »
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  • I have some old books with fliers and posters and writings of those years of 19922 -25 like Al Smith and such when we in the US had alot of catholic bashing.  Liberals wanted no catholics in office, especially president.  As for schools, there were nuns as teachers in the public schools, if you can imagine that.  Some states had it that way, because no one else came forward for the job.  Then the Gov't was up to help financially schools and the private/catholic were also able to obtain money, BUT, if you did, you were letting the gov't into the schools and catholics didn't always fall for it.  Some did, like busing. The history behind it is interesting.  Now, today you have vouchers.  That is federal assitance. And when it is taken and used, it requires those private/catholic schools to follow required rules.  LIke: if you take the money, you are required to teach safety/health.  that is right.  In IN the voucher are being doubled, did you read that in the news?

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    « Reply #3 on: August 21, 2012, 11:45:34 PM »
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  • A good find.
    Sincerely,

    Shin

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    « Reply #4 on: August 21, 2012, 11:51:23 PM »
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  • I haven't seen anything about vouchers since the matter got dropped here in AZ, although someone did try to reintroduce them earlier this year. It doesn't surprise me that it's another way of getting control of private schools.


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    « Reply #5 on: August 21, 2012, 11:51:54 PM »
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    A good find.


    Thank you.

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    « Reply #6 on: September 04, 2012, 02:49:38 PM »
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  • Reflects on the education we get and the slanted Prot/masonic view

    1.Spain/France were evil and did little in way of evanglizing/settling
    2.in turn, treats the yrs 1493-1620 as "lost"years, were most of continent was pagan and evil
    3. ignores the fact that Spain/France and others were virtually fighting for lives w/Muslims and others, inc prots, leading to slow settling,etc.
    4. The founding of the colonies by white Protestants (read, heretics that often had laws delcaring death to any papist found or washed on their shores) was a great thing.
    5. we should all jsut dwell in the 50's, for a great time it was.......

    Note, this is celebrated now by Catholics, liberal, NO and apparently, trads.......
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic

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    « Reply #7 on: September 04, 2012, 02:50:29 PM »
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  • Quote from: jlamos
    I was doing a little research on education policy and I came upon this juicy little tidbit:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Compulsory_Education_Act

    Oregon Compulsory Education Act
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The Compulsory Education Act or Oregon School Law was a 1922 law in the U.S. state of Oregon that required school age children to attend only public schools. The United States Supreme Court later struck down the law as unconstitutional.

    Background

    In 1922, the Masonic Grand Lodge of Oregon sponsored a bill to require all school-age children to attend public schools. With support also of the state Ku Klux Klan and 1922 Democratic gubernatorial candidate Walter M. Pierce, the Compulsory Education Law was passed by a vote of 115,506 to 103,685. Its primary purpose was to shut down Catholic schools in Oregon, but it also affected other private and military schools. It was challenged in court and struck down by the United States Supreme Court Pierce v. Society of Sisters (1925) before it went into effect.

    The law, which was officially called the Compulsory Education Act and unofficially became known as the Oregon School Law, did not just require that children between the ages of eight and sixteen had to attend school; it required that they attend only public schools. By prohibiting children from attending private or parochial schools, the state thus forced such schools to close.

    Outraged Catholics organized locally and nationally for the right to send their children to Catholic schools. In a 1925 decision, the United States Supreme Court declared the Oregon School Law unconstitutional in a ruling that that has been called "the Magna Carta of the parochial school system." In the ruling, the Court asserted that "the child is not the mere creature of the state" and settled once and for all the question of whether or not private schools had a right to exist in America.

    Pope Pius XI, in 1929, explicitly referenced this Supreme Court case in his encyclical Divini illius magistri[1] on Catholic education. He quoted this part of the case, which says:

    Quote
    The fundamental theory of liberty upon which all governments in this Union repose excludes any general power of the State to standardize its children by forcing them to accept instruction from public teachers only. The child is not the mere creature of the State; those who nurture him and direct his destiny have the right coupled with the high duty, to recognize, and prepare him for additional duties.

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    I have printed the encyclical and will read it tonight.


    back when the K of C was relevant still-and active-they did fight many of these laws, including either Oregon or Washinginton.....
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic


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    « Reply #8 on: September 04, 2012, 02:58:32 PM »
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  • Compulsory Ed laws started in MA.


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    « Reply #9 on: September 04, 2012, 02:59:40 PM »
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    I have some old books with fliers and posters and writings of those years of 19922 -25 like Al Smith and such when we in the US had alot of catholic bashing.  Liberals wanted no catholics in office, especially president.  As for schools, there were nuns as teachers in the public schools, if you can imagine that.  Some states had it that way, because no one else came forward for the job.  Then the Gov't was up to help financially schools and the private/catholic were also able to obtain money, BUT, if you did, you were letting the gov't into the schools and catholics didn't always fall for it.  Some did, like busing. The history behind it is interesting.  Now, today you have vouchers.  That is federal assitance. And when it is taken and used, it requires those private/catholic schools to follow required rules.  LIke: if you take the money, you are required to teach safety/health.  that is right.  In IN the voucher are being doubled, did you read that in the news?


    So many gop/conservatives are all for vouchers. :facepalm:

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    « Reply #10 on: September 04, 2012, 03:08:15 PM »
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    I have some old books with fliers and posters and writings of those years of 19922 -25 like Al Smith and such when we in the US had alot of catholic bashing.  Liberals wanted no catholics in office, especially president.  As for schools, there were nuns as teachers in the public schools, if you can imagine that.  Some states had it that way, because no one else came forward for the job.  Then the Gov't was up to help financially schools and the private/catholic were also able to obtain money, BUT, if you did, you were letting the gov't into the schools and catholics didn't always fall for it.  Some did, like busing. The history behind it is interesting.  Now, today you have vouchers.  That is federal assitance. And when it is taken and used, it requires those private/catholic schools to follow required rules.  LIke: if you take the money, you are required to teach safety/health.  that is right.  In IN the voucher are being doubled, did you read that in the news?


    So many gop/conservatives are all for vouchers. :facepalm:


    makes them soudn good and does not address problems at all....how many "settle" for this type of thing.......mayn conservatives go to Bohemian Grove, too....

    the core of conservatism today was liberalism 50 yrs ago....
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