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  • FR. HELMUTS LIBIETIS

    Sermon on the North American Marytyrs
    Given @ Auriesville, 2009

    Youtube link :

    Thanks Jake for the audio of this sermon. May God bless you and yours always.

    Offline Neil Obstat

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    « Reply #1 on: December 04, 2012, 04:53:10 PM »
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  • Thank you for this.
    Now I know a little something about this fine priest, who made the very
    useful ABL brochure.  And now, he has made a very useful recoding of a
    fine sermon in a fine place, a sermon that very well could be the spark
    that ignites a vocation, or two, or a thousand.  A lot could depend on
    its distribution, or on YouTube, ironically!

    A lot could depend on you, and on me...................

    I wish someone could tell us where he is, and how he's doing.  

    I knew someone who was at that pilgrimage.  Small world.

    The property there in Auriesville has a Jesuit seminary building on it,
    that was among the "abandoned buildings" inasmuch as it has no longer
    been used as a seminary.  

    The church-in-the-round is in disrepair.  It was built in the 30's, for the
    canonizations of the North American Martyrs, St. Isaac Jogues and
    Companions.  Apparently not many Americans care much about these
    martyrs anymore.  Some do, of course, but it's a very tiny demographic.

    The old seminary building is a fine structure, and it has been purchased
    by Buddhists, who find it most useful for their purposes.  I have a friend
    who visited there and looking for someone to answer his questions, he
    came across one of the Buddhists who knew a lot about what's going on
    there.  He explained that no one should be concerned with the state of
    the church-in-the-round, because the Buddhists are going to buy that
    too, and then they'll fix it up, to be a Buddhist shrine. It will be very nice.

    There's nothing to worry about.

    You can walk down the very wide path, a road, really, that goes down a
    very gently sloping hill into the forest where our martyrs were killed
    for their faith, so many years ago, getting close to 400 years these days.

    When you walk down the path, you can see markers that identify the
    various places where things had happened, where one priest had been
    attacked by the Indians, had his skull split open by a tomahawk, or was
    tied to a stake and tortured, or where a body lay in a hasty, shallow
    grave for a while, until it was found some months later but had been
    torn asunder by wild animals and the relics therefore of that saint had
    been scattered, and then some of them were found, but that many were
    never found, such that we are now standing in the dust of first class
    relics that are part of the very soil we are walking on.

    Go on down and come to an open area, a clearing on level ground,
    where the pilgrims gather every year to commemorate these great
    martyrs' lives, and there are several stone altars set up amongst the
    trees at various levels high and low, near and far.  

    One is up the hill to the right.  One is down the hill straight ahead.  
    Another is found following a trail around behind the trees and behind
    the second altar.  One of them has a reliquary below the altar with a
    window, showing the resting place of Our Lord's tomb, with Jesus lying
    there as He was on Holy Saturday.  

    And on each of these altars you see a niche or a cut-out on the surface
    of the top of it, where the priest celebrates the Mass, and places the
    chalice and the patten.  The niche is for placing your altar stone.  But it
    is on a horizontal surface, amidst the trees, and not maintained, so you
    find the niches are filled with dirt.  The dirt has been removed many
    times,  I'm sure, but the niches are not clean, like an altar should be.  

    During the winter, the altars are covered with snow, most likely, and
    in the spring the snow melts and leaves behind the soiled surfaces
    like these, that are level, and any hollows like these that are for the
    altar stones are filled with melted snow, and probably the birds come
    and drink the water, if they choose to do so, as if in commemoration
    of the animals that came to alight on the holy bodies of the saints
    who lay on the ground over 3 centuries ago here...

    Traditionally, a Mass must have an altar stone on which to place the
    bread and the wine for the Holy Consecration.  And so when these
    altars have been used for Mass, the dirt must have been cleaned out
    and the niche filled with the altar stone, and made flat by filling the
    space under the stone, if necessary, by putting napkins or perhaps
    some flakes of tree bark, which are all around there, so the chalice
    will stand up straight during Mass.  The altar stone, once in place is
    covered by the altar linens, and finally by the corporal cloth, on which
    the patten is placed, and the chalice, and during the consecration,
    the host itself touches the corporal, as the body of Our Lord touched
    the burial cloth, the shroud, that covered his body.  

    But now, when they have a Novus Ordo liturgy there, and there have
    been many, they do not bother, usually, to have an altar stone, for in
    any of the parishes you would find in your neighborhood worldwide,
    they no longer use an altar stone.  It is another casualty of the post-
    Conciliar apostasy from the Faith.  

    The Canonized Traditional Latin Mass of these martyrs is fading away,
    their relics are fading away, the stone altars are fading away, the
    pilgrims are fading away, the shrine is fading away, and the Faith is
    fading away.  

    Don't miss the shrine, don't forget to visit, and don't forget to make
    time.

    Because the others in your group will not be interested in spending
    time there.  "Can we go now?" must have been uttered a million times
    there.  If only the rocks could talk!  

    They'll have lots and lots of reasons not to walk down the long path,
    the straight and narrow way of salvation, that takes you to the most
    peaceful and inspirational clearing area, where you can easily imagine
    a priest at each altar at the same time years ago, all saying Mass at
    the same time, and the faithful gathered on the rocks nearby, in the
    bushes, on the earth, the terra firma, where the relics of saints may
    find their way between your toes.  It may be the closest you ever get
    to a real saint.  


    Don't miss it.

















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    FR. HELMUTS LIBIETIS - Sermon on the North American Martyrs - 2009
    « Reply #2 on: December 04, 2012, 11:33:27 PM »
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  • Thank you for this very interesting piece of history.
    May the North American Martyrs bless you for your effort.
    :incense:

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    FR. HELMUTS LIBIETIS - Sermon on the North American Martyrs - 2009
    « Reply #3 on: December 04, 2012, 11:39:31 PM »
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    He explained that no one should be concerned with the state of
    the church-in-the-round, because the Buddhists are going to buy that
    too, and then they'll fix it up, to be a Buddhist shrine. It will be very nice.


    What should one expect?

    Nostra Aetate praises Buddhism, explicitly contradicts Church teaching on Judaism and implicitly condemns the Fathers of the Church as antisemites.

    And yet we know very well Bishop Fellay said he was willing to accept parts of Nostra Aetate!

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    FR. HELMUTS LIBIETIS - Sermon on the North American Martyrs - 2009
    « Reply #4 on: December 05, 2012, 01:51:06 AM »
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    Thank you for this very interesting piece of history.
    May the North American Martyrs bless you for your effort.
    :incense:


    You're most welcome!

    The place is dear to my heart, as you may sense.  I've only had the great
    privilege of visiting once, however.  There are not a few blessed souls who
    have made the pilgrimage several times.  I cannot recommend doing so
    highly enough.  If there is any one thing that any American would do well
    to strive to achieve in his or her lifetime, it is none other than making the
    annual pilgrimage to the Shrine of the North American Martyrs.

    The graces attached are not describable in words, but are visible for those
    with eyes to see and are audible for those with ears to hear, let he who
    readeth understand.

    And I must say, chrstnoel1, you give me a great blessing, for you to say,
    "May the North American Martyrs bless you for your effort."  The fact that
    you have said this is in itself a blessing, so what I receive therefore is a
    blessing upon another blessing.  Any student of both higher mathematics
    and good philosophy would know what that implies.


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    He explained that no one should be concerned with the state of
    the church-in-the-round, because the Buddhists are going to buy that
    too, and then they'll fix it up, to be a Buddhist shrine. It will be very nice.


    What should one expect?

    Nostra Aetate praises Buddhism, explicitly contradicts Church teaching on Judaism and implicitly condemns the Fathers of the Church as antisemites.

    And yet we know very well Bishop Fellay said he was willing to accept parts of Nostra Aetate!



    If only Bishop Williamson could acquire this shrine for his center of
    learning for traditional Catholics - would be a dream come true for me.  

    But that would be his call, ultimately.  I would most surely want to be
    there if he were to offer Mass in the Grotto.  That would be most special.
    And the sermon - he couldn't omit a sermon on such an occasion.  No, he
    would never disappoint us like that.  I think he would prefer to use the
    altar with the reliquary of Our Lord's tomb.  What a photo-op that would
    be!  Wide angle, 6 x 7, adjusted to 45 degrees toward the sunburst in
    the trees with +W in the bottom right corner raising the Host, the
    reliquary there in plain view, and the crowd off to the side, in the
    morning fog.  It's such a beautiful setting.

    But it's all a pipe dream if a miracle does not happen.  

    And if the Pope and bishops of the world would consecrate Russia to the
    Immaculate Heart of Mary it wouldn't be such a long shot anymore.

    And we could avoid World War III.  

    The annihilation of nations would be obviated.  

    But as it goes, considering we re-elected a lying scoundrel Communist
    murderer who's all for abusive taxation and unjustified foreign aid to
    Zionist banksters, the Collegial Consecration suddenly looks all the
    more postponed, no?



    Or, are Catholics praying a little harder now, since we obviously didn't
    pray hard enough yet?                    :pray:




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