Sorry Daniel, I stand by the words of Our Lord. Your argument is with Him, and so is Tracy's. Tracy's wanted to be congradulated. Look at her first post of the thread with a champagne bottle. Joe's defense is ridiculous because she no one knows her last name on that board.
No one knows her last name on that board. She was exposing herself and other Catholics to scandalous behavior for a welcoming party of love.
There is nothing that she can make public that would solve the issue and make me look stupid. What can she say? That she was abused, mistreated, hated, etc? And can Joe say the same thing simultaneously and plan evenly spaced divorces within the last year and resort to civil marriage?
No details can change this is wrong. There is nothing on this earth that can change how this is wrong.
You tell me, how could I look stupid? What detail is going to come out and tell me Ne Temere of St. Pius X was wrong, or the teachings of the Council of Trent? Or the teaching on the indissolvibility of marriage. St. Paul tells us how sacred this bond is when he tells us how the unbelieving spouse shall be saved by the believer, and how Our Lord reminds us that those who turn away their spouse make them an adulterer. Nothing is plainer, nothing is more sacrosanct.
It would be like a priest leaving his vocation for marriage and then declaring, "Well you don't know the details. You wait." Sorry, there is nothing to buy. One's bond is for better or for worse. You swear before God and man that your bond is until death.
Then, to make matters worse they boot me off so I cannot stop their celebration of such an event. I was the party pooper and instead of addressing the situation I got booted because it was obvious they want a party, not a reminder of the gravity of the sacrament.
2 closely timed divorces, 2 people marrying each other civilly without the authority of the Church. Sorry Daniel, but you are wrong, and on the wrong side of this. I have nothing to fear that would make me look stupid. No amount of abuse or vitriol of the spouses is going to take away those bonds and those stern admonitions from Jesus Christ, so strong that Peter said, "It is better not to marry" (than to get married and break the bond).
What part of "What God has joined together" to civil unions could I be wrong about?