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Miss_Fluffy · « **Reply #90 on:** June 20, 2007, 10:24:30 AM »

Thanks Matthew for clarifying things. You're right. When I said I didn't care about the wedding itself, I meant I don't care if anyone shows up, my family is not Catholic after all, and the wedding part means more to the two of us than to our families. I meant that I didn't care if I had fancy flowers, or a fancy dress, or fancy bridesmaids etc. But of course I care that it's proper and Catholic.

If I didn't care at all, I wouldn't even bother getting married, no one else does these days.

I took what Mike said a little rough because I am upset about things not going the way I would have liked. But surely I don't deserve to have everything go my way at this point.

I know I have been tempting consequences with my sins. It has been difficult to get rid of old habits that were firmly in place before I converted. I am sorry for them, believe me.

My fiance and I are making a renewed effort to remain chaste until our vows are in place, pray for us that we get past this, and don't influence our new family badly with our terrible example. I do worry about this bad start, and that it might have some repercussions on our children.

We have an appointment with the priest at the Indult parish tomorrow. I hope it goes well, and that we can get this sorted out. I'm so anxious about money and hope we can start sharing living expenses as soon as possible.

Miss_Fluffy · « **Reply #91 on:** June 20, 2007, 10:27:20 AM »

Quote from: gladius_veritatis

Now, lassie...are you Irish or not? Whence comes this need for mariachi???

Well, it's a Texas thing. I wasn't born here, but I got here as fast as I could. Ha ha!

When I was 12 and we first moved here, my Dad absolutely loved the Tex Mex food. We would go to this restaurant all the time and they sometimes had a mariachi band. He embarrased me and asked them to play a song for me at our table. (I'm a daddy's girl at heart).

MaterDominici · « **Reply #92 on:** June 20, 2007, 10:31:37 AM »

Quote from: Miss_Fluffy

I'm so anxious about money and hope we can start sharing living expenses as soon as possible.

It seems I don't need to remind you of this as I believe you have experienced it personally:
Do what God asks of you and He will provide all you need.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #93 on:** June 20, 2007, 10:36:10 AM »

Quote from: Miss_Fluffy

Quote from: gladius_veritatis

Now, lassie...are you Irish or not? Whence comes this need for mariachi???

Well, it's a Texas thing. I wasn't born here, but I got here as fast as I could. Ha ha!

I don't think Mike has been here long enough to appreciate the importance of a good mariachi band!

Such things can be quite confusing for a foreigner and could be the root of much misunderstanding.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #94 on:** June 20, 2007, 12:00:04 PM »

Quote from: Miss_Fluffy

My fiance and I are making a renewed effort to remain chaste until our vows are in place, pray for us that we get past this...

For what it's worth, I believe this statement nullifies many of the concerns true friends should have--valid concerns which were being ignored in the FE thread and led to Michael's bannished post.

Many people, especially all-knowing family members, will tell you that now is the time to marry and most will add that it should be quick and discreet. However, an unexpected pregnancy doesn't immediately make the father a good choice for a husband (and father of future children). Your husband still has to be a man who will lead you and your children toward Heaven whether they are biologically his or not. For example, if your fiance didn't agree that chastity is still important between now and your wedding, he wouldn't be worth marrying. However, given the statement above, it seems that's joyously not the case.

We'll keep praying for the two (three) of you as you find your way through this uncertain time.

Enjoy your pregnancy and if you need any help getting ready for the baby, just ask. :baby:

Matthew · « **Reply #95 on:** June 20, 2007, 12:08:44 PM »

Speaking of babies, everyone here knows that MaterDominici (my wife) is expecting again, right?

Due date is late July, and we already know that Dominic is going to have a little sister.

Matthew

Miss_Fluffy · « **Reply #96 on:** June 20, 2007, 12:29:05 PM »

That's awesome!!! Congrats to the two of you :)

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #97 on:** June 20, 2007, 12:57:49 PM »

Quote from: Miss_Fluffy

Well, it's a Texas thing. I wasn't born here, but I got here as fast as I could.

Well, I was born in Texas - Austin to be precise. I love Tex-Mex, too, and mariachi is fine music - but Eamon Patrick Shea cannot be havin' his fellow Irishmen forgettin' their Irishness.

Miss_Fluffy · « **Reply #98 on:** June 20, 2007, 12:59:21 PM »

We'll give the little one a good traditional Irish name to make up for it

MichaelSolimanto · « **Reply #99 on:** June 20, 2007, 03:37:54 PM »

Quote from: Miss_Fluffy

Who ever said I would not have a Catholic wedding? Whoever said I would make the ceremony banal? I know I mentioned my parents suggested going to a JP, but was mentioning that as something that upset me.

I'm really not sure what you're saying? A Catholic wedding is a Catholic wedding. It will be downplayed because I don't have the money for extra flowers or to dress a wedding party or anything extra like that. But we will stand before God and receive the Sacrament of Matrimony. If you want it to be more spectacular with flowers and bridesmaids and groomsmen and all that, perhaps you're willing to pitch in? And also provide some Catholics to be in the wedding party since we are lone Catholics amongst our family and friends?

What life altering changes are you asking me to reconsider? It seems to me that the situation calls for life altering changes. Life moves on and God demands that we take up our crosses and live by His will.

I think you are confusing having a nice liturgy with having an expensive one. When you said that you didn't care too much about the ceremony as the mariachis it lead me to believe you just didn't care.

You said: "I don't really care about the wedding itself. I just want to be able to have all my friends and family there for the reception. I want a nice big party and lots and lots of good food, and a mariachi band!!!"

All I was saying is go before God with a beautiful TLM. Flowers and all the rest of that stuff is not important. That's all I was saying about the liturgy and that you should care if the ceremony is beautiful (not necessarily the ornamentation).

As far as changing things in your life is who you are hanging out with. You said some pretty stinging things in your post that should make someone cringe like not breaking away from lifestyles. Most of the time it's who you spend time with. Spend time with people from church and you will spend more time doing more wholesome things by and large. That's all that I was saying. That's part of what it means to follow His will too.

MichaelSolimanto · « **Reply #100 on:** June 20, 2007, 03:39:59 PM »

Quote from: ChantCd

Speaking of babies, everyone here knows that MaterDominici (my wife) is expecting again, right?

Due date is late July, and we already know that Dominic is going to have a little sister.

Matthew

Yes, and we're praying for you.

Carolus Magnus · « **Reply #101 on:** June 20, 2007, 06:26:12 PM »

There was a time when naysmith's where valued for the important service they rendered and people actually paid for their criticism, even if ultimately their argument was ignored they where a great aid in helping people to live a virtuous life, now it seems people are so ruled by their ego that any criticism is treat like an attack on their very souls, when people start to again be willing to listen to the arguments of naysmiths and then reason them out instead of getting emotional and moving immediately to protect the eqo they will have moved one step closer to achieving their true end, the eternal beatitude with which God rewards the righteous.

Magdalene · « **Reply #102 on:** June 20, 2007, 11:20:22 PM »

Quote from: ChantCd

On the other hand, "I don't really care about the wedding itself" wasn't exactly the best way to phrase it :)
I can see the potential for misunderstanding there.

I don't know anything about Fluffy either. I don't read her posts on FE. But when I went to read the one she wrote about this issue, I also (like Mike) got the impression that she cared more about having a mariachi band than having a Catholic wedding.

Like Matthew said, many times people can misunderstand a post because the wording of the person who posted did not articulate what they wanted to convey in a clearer way.

Miss_Fluffy · « **Reply #103 on:** June 21, 2007, 08:51:56 AM »

Quote from: Carolus Magnus

There was a time when naysmith's where valued for the important service they rendered and people actually paid for their criticism, even if ultimately their argument was ignored they where a great aid in helping people to live a virtuous life, now it seems people are so ruled by their ego that any criticism is treat like an attack on their very souls, when people start to again be willing to listen to the arguments of naysmiths and then reason them out instead of getting emotional and moving immediately to protect the eqo they will have moved one step closer to achieving their true end, the eternal beatitude with which God rewards the righteous.

This is so true. Even though my feathers get ruffled sometimes, I truly appreciate criticism.

Matthew · « **Reply #104 on:** June 21, 2007, 08:58:59 AM »

Scripture talks again and again about how the Wise Man seeks out correction, and improves himself -- where the Fool gets upset and rejects criticism.

The Wise Man ends up more wise and perfect, while the fool ends up a disaster -- both because of their respective choices.

Matthew